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English vs Spanish #31 (permalink) Fri Apr 14, 2006 22:40 pm   English vs Spanish
 

hey Jamie,
that is not what the verse really means. Like you said, it is dangerous to interpret things without looking at the context, that is why it is important to at least read the chapter before and the chapter after the verse, so you can get the context of it. What James is trying to say with that verse is that you should demonstrate your faith by your works. It doesn't have to do with the doctrine of Justification explained by Paul in the book of Romans. Perhaps if they had used a different word than "justified" on the translation of that verse, that wouldn't cause so much confusion.
Anyway, you can find a better explanation of that on this link: http://www.carm.org/questions/faithorworks.htm

Also, because I work for this web site, I do not want people thinking I'm using it to try to evangelize instead of teaching English, but because there seems to be an interest on this subject I just created a website so we can freely talk about it. So if you would like to reply to my post, please do it over there. I extend the invitation to anybody else that is interested in this topic and wants to talk about it more. Here is the link to the web site:
http://www.xanga.com/morningstar_cb
If it requires for you to set up an account in order to post a comment over there, and you do not wish to do so, you can try just leaving a message on my guestbook or e-mailing me and I publish my answer over there.
The e-mail you can use is: morningstar_cb@hotmail.com also set up just for this purpose.
This is my last post on this topic over here. Thanks for your understanding!
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English vs Spanish #32 (permalink) Sat Dec 29, 2007 21:15 pm   English vs Spanish
 

Hey all, I'm a USA citizen but I lived in Honduras for 2 years. I'm very fluent in Spanish from that. But my point in posting is that I met many people in Central America that had once lived in the United States (most of them illegally) for 1 to 10 years that don't know any English. But the ones that come legally do seem to learn English. I don't really know why this is, but it's true. I was with people every day all day in my work down there and that seemed to be the trend.
I also think that English has become so popular because most Americans refuse to learn any other language and that forces others to learn English. We get taught Spanish or French or German or what ever in our public schools, but most people don't seem to care about "Really Learning" a new language.
Any ways... thanks for listening to me Smile and good luck with your studies
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English vs Spanish #33 (permalink) Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:02 am   English vs Spanish
 

Jamie (K) wrote:
The whole dynamic of this is a little complicated.

Where I live, very few consumer-oriented businesses require employees to speak Spanish, because there are not very many Spanish customers who don't speak English. In some neighborhoods it is a limited asset to know some Spanish, but it won't get you a job or lose you one. And in that regard, Arabic is just as useful as Spanish, if not more so.

When corporate employees here learn German, it's usually to talk to the management and the people in the company's home office. When they learn Spanish, it's usually to talk to the workers in Mexico (the Mexican engineers and managers can usually speak English). They learn Japanese for the same reason they learn German, and they learn Portuguese to speak to the factory workers in Brazil (i.e., the same reason they learn Spanish).

There is a lot of work here for translators and interpreters in German, Japanese, Chinese, etc., and that's for business. The work in Spanish is more weighted toward court and hospital interpreting, but here Arabic, Chaldean, Bosnian and Vietnamese are as important as Spanish.


I suppose it's possible that a person could also be asked to learn German, Japanese, Spanish and/or Portuguese if the following were the case:

1) The person was a soccer coach, and
2) The person was going to be coaching some players who spoke those languages.

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