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#2 (permalink) Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:52 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hi Mr. Bill
Really really it is the saddest part of our life in earth when someone incomparable goes away ..passes away.... I agree with your lines of deep feelings.... Thanks for sharing such a wonderful memory....
Please enlighten me with this line of yours...
''And yet I her hear her still ''
I simply don't understand it.
Thanks
Sahid 2012.01.09 _________________ Sahid59
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#3 (permalink) Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:05 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hello old friend. Glad to see you are still active on the Forum.
''And yet I her hear her still '' ... She is now dead, but in the still of night I hear her voice. She is always with me.
Kitos. _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jan 10, 2012 15:40 pm My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Thanks master for your kind explanations... I am happy to see you as a poet to cheer-up our hearts....
Have a wonderful day ..everyday...!!
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#5 (permalink) Wed Jan 11, 2012 21:35 pm My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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As always Sahid, you are polite, and always kind to an old scribbler.
My best wishes to you and your family.
Kitos. _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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#6 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:40 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hello Kitos,
I thought of you this night. And I found a letter from your thread but I couldn't open it. Here it is:
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Topic Reply Notification - My favourite story, by Kitosdad. (#421160) X Beérkező levelek X Válasz forum@english-test.net részletek megjelenítése 2:23 (4 órája)
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I opened looking for the thread. And on this thread my letter was the last. Then I look for your last letter to the Forum.It was on 11th January.
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Dear Kitos, I am very hope that you are well and you didn't write to us only that's why that you hadn't time.
Take care: Kati Svaby _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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#7 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:13 am Re: My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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How warm a poem it is. It's too complicated for me to share my feelings in English. But I'd like to share a warm photo with all of you instead. The story of the photo just happened in Taiwan few day ago. I hope you like it.
Justin
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#8 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:51 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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| Justin, what a beautiful photo. I wish this respect and love of our elderly relatives was more common. As a granny myself, I'm lucky enough to have a loving family. |
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#9 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:40 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hello Justin,
It is a very shocking photo. It is good to see that this old granny is surrounded with love, attention, helpfulness. These days it is very rare in our country.
The old ill couple try to take care of each other. But the one is passing away the other will be sent to the old people's home where his/her children go to see him/her now and then.
My husband is now in hospital. I just came home for something but I go back to him and I will print this photo to show to him that love and care for elder people didn't die.
Many thanks for this heart breaking but affectionate photo.
Regards: Kati Svaby _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2012 19:11 pm My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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I don't know which one more influential is, the poem of Kitosdad or the picture of Justin.! _________________ We are always looking for a miracle but the things we are used to seeing are more miraculous than those we are looking for. |
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#11 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2012 19:49 pm My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hello Jamilion,
I hope you will take in good part if I say the two grannies couldn't be comparable with each other.
Because Kitos wrote his shocking recollection of her very beloved granny.
This other shows a grand-child's desperation and expressing his readiness to help his dying granny. _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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#12 (permalink) Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:32 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hi, Actually, this is a picture of a 61-year-old man carrying his 85-year-old mother, waiting in a hospital. The picture was taken by a lady with her mobile phone camera. At the beginning, no one knew who the man was. After one or two days, someone recognized him and revealed his identity to the press. The man said that his mother suffered from senile dementia. Her leg was also in plaster. Considering that sitting on a wheelchair may be not comfortable, he decided to "carry" her with a cloth. In Chinese culture, there are 24 stories about filial piety. These days, some people honored this man's behavior by regarding it as the 25th case. I posted this picture here because I was inspired by Kitos' poem. Both of the stories are about the relationships between people and their elders. It's good to see people having good attitude towards their elders in spite of their death or illness.
I don't usually read English poem because I am afraid of being impacted by unusual usages of words or special order of words in poems. And sometimes it is frustrating when I find it difficult to understand what a poem is about.
Unsurprizingly, I got two questions to the poem: 1. "Fot my Grannie wouldn't let me down" Is Fot a typo of For?
2. "And yet I her hear her still Is the first her a typo of here? If not, which is the subject of this verse?
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#13 (permalink) Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:56 am My Grannie, by Kitos. |
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Hello Justin,
Many thanks for your letter. It is good to know the background of this picture. But now it is true the English proverb:" A picture is worth a thousand words"
I was lucky because I was in China. I wrote to Torsten about my Chinese experiences (on Jul.21 2011) among other things:
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"In the second part I would like to speak about the respect of traditions. The respect of elder people. It belongs to their tradition. On the first evening we went to a restaurant to eat Peking duck. The waiters offered to my husband the chair on the upper end of the table and gave him on a tiny plate the tiny crest of the duck. This is also an old custom." |
This is only was a tiny example, but very unusual for a European, that they immediately assessed who is the eldest among us and they honoured him with their respect.
Kitos explain one of them you didn't understand: '
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| 'And yet I her hear her still '' ... She is now dead, but in the still of night I hear her voice. She is always with me. |
Here the first "her" is an object form of a personnel pronoun (she), and the second is a possessive adjective as Kitos explain it means :"her still" = "her voice". I think that it is literary ( without an article ) but we can understand the still here is a noun which expresses her calmness, quietness.
I hope that I didn't hurt anybody with this explanation. The second is really a typo.
Best regards: Kati _________________ We always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love - first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage. |
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