Women rights

[B3l1]

I'm about to start an interesting subject, to be honest I dig up into the old topics in this section of the forum, and I found an interesting topic, but pointed into the wrong direction. I would like to revive this subject.

Why do you think, should women have equal rights as men? Why women were so mayhem and discriminated trough the past? We are all aware of the fact that women were really bad treated trough the history, what is your opinion on all this?

Women rights should be equal as men, not less, not more. But still there need to exist a labor-division. For some jobs man is created, for an instance hard job that request a lot of strength. But still some jobs lies better to the women, houseworks.

Exceptions should exist, it wouldn't hurt a man if he prepare a meal, or wash a dishes, but still this kind of jobs belongs to women.

But other life advantages and disadvantages should be the same for both genres. My opinion on why women were discriminated so much back in the history are religion books, and religion itself.

But still I believe that this all is overrated , women were discriminated at some fields, in specific area for a specific period of time.

Damn, when I read my post again, it makes me think I sounded so serious,egocentric and 'robotic' .. :D

[Shanthisethuraman]

Hi,

Women's rights have been improved day by day since they are educated and they
can manage the show on householding works and outside works like employment.
Previously women are prohibited from working outside, now-a-days, it is not so,
they have got full freedom/rights to work anywhere because of their economic
situation to bring up thier children and to be educated in reputed school. So
Men and women's rights are more or equals. In fact wearing dress/costume, women are enjoying more than men.

Apart from wearing Sarees, now they started wearing Jeans Pant, Suddidhar, and etc,
and making themselves equally to men, and men cannot wear saree and other things.
This way women are really enjoying their rights and they are not discriminated from men as it was followed by old people

In my country/State Woman is the Chief Minister of Tamilnadu, In Thiland the Young Woman is the Prime Minister, it shows how tallent women are, how they enjoy rights
when it is compared with men.

In some places, Women rights are prohibited due to their family position and circumstances, it will not applicable to all places.

Thank you

S.Shanthi

[Minhajquazi]

Shanthisethuraman wrote:

[B3l1]

That is all okay, but my point was, what do you think, what is the reason for women discrimination back then in history?

[Kkebe]

Dear B3

In the Paleolithic period or Old Stone Age era, when and men were equal. There was no gender discrimination. Their jobs were hunting and gathering. Women were respected for giving birth. In the Neolithic period, the nomadic lifestyle was replaced with farming and further civilization. This lifestyle change allows them to settle permanently. Women were continuing stayed busy by giving birth, raising children and care of the household, while, the use of better tools and different method of work allow men to have more extra time. Therefore, they started involving in politics and many other social events. These gaps created a class difference between the two genders.
I personally do not believe that the class differences are caused by religion because the bible recognizes women as a virtues woman.
Women fought for many years for their freedom and to be accepted equally in the society. Yes, they are recognized and accepted as a human and in most places treated equally. However, women still earn less than men for equal work. President Obama singed the Ledbetter law fair pay act in January, 2009. He stated that “we are all created equal, and each deserves a chance to pursue our own version of happiness.”
Most men feel unhappy and insecure with the whole idea of being women equal, because they believed in male superiority. They may not speak out how they feel about women discrimination but inside of them may be burning with anger. What would happen if women become successful and powerful in the world?
I do not believe the discrimination of women is overrated at all. It is true and still exists.

I will be more than happy to get feedback on my writing,
Respectfully,

kkebe

[Shanthisethuraman]

Hi Kkebe,

Thank you for your good opinion about women and their rights. I will not agree with
you in one point that women earn less salary than men. That is not true, now - a - days women are over qualified than men, because they are studying all Degrees/Master Degress and Software and Engineering filelds, they are outstanding
on their qulafycations wise, employment wise, so their income is higher than men,
women are finding difficult to marry men because of their qulafication/job.

I wish you good luck, you way of writing has been improved, I hope you will attain your goal of writing very soon.

Thank you

S.Shanthi

[B3l1]

@Kkebe If they were equal from the very beginning why would involving in politics change their values? Furthermore, they weren't equal almost in the whole world. There must be something bigger than that..
Actually either Bible and Qur'an clearly says that women can't have same rights as men..

@Shanth... I disagree with you, google for it, overall men are much better businessman's, and in every firm the main boss is always a man, it is an exception to find a woman as a boss. But the need for women in business is very high, the prettier she is the bigger chance is that she will get a job ( although he need to know her job ) this is called a marketing.

[Kkebe]

Dear B3

“@Kkebe If they were equal from the very beginning why would involving in politics change their values? “
During the Neolithic revolution gender roles existed. Women become responsible for the house work while men produced food. “The bronze age” people discovered the use of metal (copper, bronze, etc.) instead of stone. These discoveries make the job of men easier and allow them to have free time. Therefore, started building permanent houses, stored food and living together. They become involved in politics, created states, governments, laws and so on. In general, men become the dominate gender.

Thank you,

kkebe

[Shanthisethuraman]

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Hi

I will say that Women are back bone for the Society, Benind Everyone Successful Man
there is a Woman. Do you aware of this Proverb. You said "Women cannot become
Boss/Bussiness men to the Organisation, I will say women can also become Boss/Bussiness Women, if the house reposibilities have been equally shared by men.
Now-a-days, they are involving themselves in all fields not only in Marketing.
You are thinking that women are weaker section, so they can only spend their
time in household activities and they can work as Employee/ not Employer.
I think you have not seen outside of the world proplerly, that is why are telling Boss/Bussiness Men.

Each and every success of men behind there is a women, as all the repsonsibilities
have been looked after by women, the bussiness men are sitting in the office and doing it well, who is motivating him to become success, the motivator key is women
that is why they are managing everthing in the bussiness without getting any problem.
Since the women look after every needs of the family she is the "Boss" at home.
I hope you will understand my explanation.

[Kkebe]

Dear D3

Do you really believe men are much better business man? Or you just wanted to hear what we have to say.

You said, “overall men are much better businessmen, and in every firm, the main boss is always a man, it is an exception to find a woman as a boss.”

Why do you think it is an exception to find a woman as a boss? I am sure your sister is smart as you are, do not you think? In some countries women are still suppressed. They have no access to basic education not to mention to go out and work as a professional. But believe me, it will change. Now days, most countries are welcomed and accepted women professionals, whether men like it or not. Women are climbing the corporate ladder with passion, confident and speed.

You also said, “But the need for women in business is very high, the prettier she is the bigger chance is that she will get a job." It is a common misconception that many men think that women get into the profession of power by using their flirting and sexuality. A few may have used their power and assets to get what they want, but the majority of women have worked hard.

Thank you,

kkebe

[Minhajquazi]

I think this a very deep rooted issue in every society-women rights.

Just few minutes ago, I heard BBC for 'outlook' program. A woman has just lost her five fingers by her husband that she wants to continue her study! This phenomenon is common in the greater Indian continent society, and it is humiliating.

Biologically, women are timid, weak and so on. But many men are so in compare to their male friends. But, why are they tormenting much? Behind, there are a lot of causes.

Just one thing, you are a man walking back your home in the dark at night,Without hesitation, is it possible for a pretty woman- like so ?

Here, a good education can help a man to help this woman, other thing will not.Unfortunately, we can't provide better education to all -no where in the world even in the New York, USA! That is why several rapes occurs in this big city every day than many other cities in the world.

Who doesn't know rape is the heinous crime in every society? Here, your law can't save you except a better education. I think everybody should contemplate this issue from more inner side views. I will say many practical examples later.
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Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
since 28 years.

[Kkebe]

Dear Minhagquazi,

I read the article too. It is a very sad story.

I am so sorry for the girl. I am glad she decided to continue learning using the left hand.

[Minhajquazi]

My dear lady KK

You make me lough.

What does it mean left hand? Bruce Lee style?

As a woman, when you start to show this charismatic physical style major admirer of your boyfriends(some your lovers too!) will just switch you over!

Boys like your womenism not your hooliganism! It is nature, weapon is only change the 'outlook' that comes by better education.

Read the famous book-Pride and prejudice by Jane Austen. its main theme was 'only
love can over come all sorts of pride and prejudice'. Time has changed by this time, but
biological needs and nature haven't yet, do these?
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Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
since 28 years.

[Kkebe]

Dear Minhajquazi,

I did not quite understand your comment. I was talking about the girl on the BBC News whose five fingers of her right hand chopped off by her husband because of attending college.
The previous discussion was about “women rights” in general not a single person.

Thank you,

kkebe

[Minhajquazi]

How do you know right hand fingers? Did I mention any where?

Are we not discussing overall women rights including single?

Is London inside the England or reverse? Sorry for the cross examination.

However, you are welcome.
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Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
since 28 years.