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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #1 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:40 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

In some countries, teenagers have jobs while they are still students, for different reasons. They work because either they need money to help their parents or to get experience. Some people think they have job and study at same time, it is not a good idea, because it can damage their grade. But, I think that this is a good idea. I believe that the money they earn is necessary to cover their expenses. In addition, the young people might learn some things in the practice before starting the University. In my opinion, the teens become more responsible as well.
In my country, Brazil, is very common teenagers work during the day and study at night. These young people generally need the money, because their families are very poor and can't afford all expenses. In this case, the student need work, otherwise they aren’t able to study. Thus, is a good idea work, because working the student will be able to study, and in the future they will have a better job.
Another reason is that they get experience sooner. The teens learn the things in practice before starting at University. This may help them get better jobs in the future. I have some friends that during the high school have worked. As they start the course at the University, they already had a good job.
Finally, in my view teenager have a job while they are students yet become them more responsible. I would like explain why. When the young work and study in the same time, they learn to manager their schedule to be able do all the things. As a result, they spend less time playing video game or on the internet.
To sum up, although some people think that the teenager students should just study, I believe that is a great idea work while they are in the school.

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Re: Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #2 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:11 am   Re: Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Hi Nayara, first of all, you have a nice name :) Second, I am not a native English speaker nor an English teacher, so bare that in mind, I wont be able to figure out all your mistakes :D I am just trying to help ;)

Nayara wrote:
In some countries, teenagers have jobs while they are still students, for different reasons. They work because either {either because} they need money to help their parents or to get{gain} experience. Some people think they {that to} have {a} job and {to} study at {the} same time, it is not a good idea, because it can damage {doing so can affect} their grade{s}{Though I would prefer to say: affect their academic performance}. But, I think that this is a good idea {in this sentence you are supporting those saying that students should not work!! perhaps you should say: However, I think that the idea of students both studying and working is a good one}. I believe that the money they earn is necessary to cover their expenses. In addition, the young people {they} might learn some things in the practice {you mean gain additional experience from actual implementation of theories and ideas?} before starting the University. In my opinion {you are still stating reasons, so you should substitute "In my opinion" with something like Furthermore or Moreover}, the teens become more responsible as well. {I think that the second sentence is not in its correct place, you almost repeated the same ideas at the end of the introduction. It would be a good idea to remove it}

In my country, Brazil, {it} is very common {to find} teenagers {who} work during the day and study at night. These young people generally need themoney, because their families are very poor and can't afford all expenses. In this case, the student {those students} need {are obliged to} work, otherwise they aren’t {they wont be} able to study {pursue their studies}. Thus, it is a good idea to work, because working the student will be able to study, and in the future they will have a better job {I think this sentence needs reconsideration!}.

Another reason is that they get {gain} experience sooner. The teens learn the things in practice {implement some theories and ideas} before starting at University {university which gives them an edge compared to their colleagues}. This {advantage} may help them {grasp related materials much faster, and} get better jobs in the future. I have some friends that during the high school have worked {there is something wrong with the tense usage, I think it should be: were working}. As they start the course at the University, they already had a good job. {I believe that the last two sentences can be written in another manner to avoid repetition at least!}

Finally, in my view{,} teenager{s that} have a job while they are {being} students yet become them more responsible {that was difficult, need a native English speaker to check!}. I would like explain why. {This is simply because} When the young work and study in {at} the same time, they learn to manager their schedule{s} to be able do all the things {to succeed}. As a result, they spend less time playing video game or on the internet {good point, but you should have elaborated more on it}.

To sum up, although some people think that the teenager students should just study, I believe that {it} is a great idea {to also} work while they are in the school. {You should elaborate more in the conclusion. Moreover, you should avoid repetition}

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Re: Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #3 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:20 am   Re: Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Thank you very much Mochad!

I really appreciate your tips! They are very good!
Nayara
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #4 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:37 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

I think Mochad has done an excellent job with his comments. I would reconsider the sentence he pointed out and revise it as:

Thus, it is a good idea to work; for only by working would the student be able to complete their studies, leading to a better job in the future.
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #5 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:43 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Do you think my score would be very bad?
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #6 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:04 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Well, you can ask Mochad about my skill at predicting TOEFL test results. ;) But based on these scoring standards: http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL/pdf/Writing_Rubrics.pdf I would rate your essay as a 3 out of 5. There were quite a few grammatical mistakes and you used a limited vocabulary. The essay had good structure, but was a little short and had a lot of repetition. I think all of the descriptions of a score of 3 apply to your essay.
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #7 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:09 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Thank you! I'm very worried about this test. I'm not very good in English.
I'm study by myself for Toefl. The help of your is really important to me.
Nayara
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #8 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:15 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

You are welcome, I hope we can help you in improving your English. Where are you from? Your user name sounds Indian to me.
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #9 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:23 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

No! I'm from Brazil!
Are you American, right?
Nayara
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #10 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:40 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Yes, I am an American. I do not know any Portuguese, unfortunately! I have an acquaintance who taught at an international school in Brazil and really loved it. He learned to surf and said the surfing was really good - except during Carnival - too crowded! I love to surf and would love to visit the beautiful Brazilian beaches.
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #11 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:54 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Although I live in Brazil, I don't know to surf.
Here, the beaches here are pretty much even.
Nayara
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #12 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:01 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

What do you mean by "even". Hearing that I would think they are smooth, but I do not think that is what you mean.
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #13 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:11 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

I would like say the the beaches are indeed very beautiful.
I think that I use in a wrong manner. I used a portuguese structure.
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #14 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:14 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

You are welcome Nayara :) that is one; two, do not say that you are not going to do well! Never think like that! I agree with Luschen that you may score 3 :D He is an excellent grader, I can guarantee that :):) As for you studying by yourself, that is not wrong at all! I did the same. I took the TOEFL 2 weeks ago and my results were acceptable, but I wont tell you how much I scored before you get your results :D:D

Keep on practicing, the 3 will become 4! I will try my best correcting your essays, and if I was busy, Mr. Luschen is always here :):)
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Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me? #15 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:24 am   Help in this essay! Plese, someone correct to me?
 

Mochad, I'm really happy with your and Luschen help.
You are very nice guys.
I think that my vocabulary is very limited to thank you enough.
Nayara
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