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join someone in or on #1 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 15:22 pm   join someone in or on
 

I would like to know when I have to use 'join someone in' and 'join someone on'. For instance:

e.g. Mike joined Maria on the show or in the show.
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join someone in or on #2 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 16:19 pm   join someone in or on
 

The preposition is linked to the noun, not the verb.

You would say 'on stage', not 'in stage'.
Mike joined Maria on the stage.
but
You would use 'in the room', not 'on the room'.
Mike joined Maria in the room.

As both 'on the show' and 'in the show' can be used, then in your example both are possible.
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join someone in or on #3 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 16:41 pm   join someone in or on
 

So we can both say 'on/in the next show'?

e.g. On/In the next show will come....
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join someone in or on #4 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 16:48 pm   join someone in or on
 

First of all:
So we can say both 'on/in' the next show'.
(We can both say... indicates that there are two people saying it.)

To answer your question:
on the next show - generally refers to shows on TV or the radio.
in the next show - generally refers to shows live on stage or in arenas.
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join someone in or on #5 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 16:57 pm   join someone in or on
 

Thank you, one last thing: in or on the next episode?
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join someone in or on #6 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 17:07 pm   join someone in or on
 

That's one of those cases where either preposition can be used.
(I think 'in' is the most common, though).
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join someone in or on #7 (permalink) Sat Jan 28, 2012 20:36 pm   join someone in or on
 

But as far as I know generally we use "in" with "Join". E.g. Will you join us n solving this problem?
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join someone in or on #8 (permalink) Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:12 am   join someone in or on
 

No, that's not the case. It depends on the noun.
"Will you join us on our journey".
"We will join you on the road to Paris."
"Can you join me on a walk around the school."
"John is going to join Maria on the bridge,"
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join someone in or on #9 (permalink) Mon Jan 30, 2012 18:05 pm   join someone in or on
 

Dear Beeesneees,
where can I find a list or smth like that to learn which noun needs "on" and which one needs "in".
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join someone in or on #10 (permalink) Mon Jan 30, 2012 20:17 pm   join someone in or on
 

I don't know that a definitive one exists because, as you can see earlier in this thread, sometimes you need to consider the exact context in which the noun is being used.
There are lots of examples available by googling though. Here's a starter selection:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv212.shtml
http://is.gd/hlBp1R
http://www.edict.biz/VLC/collocation/prepositions.htm
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join someone in or on #11 (permalink) Mon Jan 30, 2012 20:32 pm   join someone in or on
 

Hi Lily,

'Join in' is an accepted phrasal verb suggesting 'participate'. 'Join' used with any preposition really depends on the particular prepositional phrase.

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