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#17 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:33 pm Never before had we-- |
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Does it mean while starting a sentence with adverbial form,you can't use other clause that makes complex or compound complex sentence? _________________ Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
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#18 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:59 pm Never before had we-- |
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No, it means that the particular case you are using does not make any sense semantically or grammatically. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#19 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:02 pm Never before had we-- |
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| Minhajquazi wrote: |
So, should it be?
"Never before had we expected such a massive response". |
For me, it seems easier and simpler to say "We never expected such a massive response", assuming that's what you mean.... |
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#20 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:07 pm Never before had we-- |
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For Ms. Bev, It does imply, you can use conditional clause with 'if' immediate after adverbial clause, can't you? _________________ Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
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#21 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:27 pm Never before had we-- |
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| Allifathima wrote: |
Luschen, "Seeing the Taj Mahal is wonderful." In this sentence is 'seeing' a gerund or not? Are the following sentences correct or not? 1. Never before had we received such a massive response! 2. Never before had we thought we would receive such a massive response. |
Yes, "seeing" is acting as a gerund.
I think both sentences are correct. Personally, I would write the second one "Never had we thought we would receive such a massive response." because the "before" seems redundant here. |
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#22 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 17:01 pm Never before had we-- |
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Hi Luschen!
what about this below?
Is it another adjective like 'applauding'? or gerund? whatever it is please explain why.
"The applauding crowd rose to its feet." _________________ Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
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#23 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 18:24 pm Never before had we-- |
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| Minhajquazi wrote: |
Hi Luschen!
what about this below?
Is it another adjective like 'applauding'? or gerund? whatever it is please explain why.
"The applauding crowd rose to its feet." |
"Applauding" is indeed used as an adjective in your sentence. The term gerund is used only when a verb acts as a noun. When the present participle of a verb acts as an adjective, like "applauding", it is often referred to as a "participle adjective". |
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#24 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 19:28 pm Never before had we-- |
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Ok thanks Mr. Luschen and including all,
Telling you frankly, I have already examined my position where did I do wrong as 'seeing'.
'Seeing the Taz Mohal' is the 'gerund phrase', single word 'seeing' gerund.
It is more easy than find out the participles or modifiers in a sentence, specially when they are not absolute or appositive phrase.
Another matter is confronting with the natives this way, better I can find out a lot of famous native writers references in the internet! Never mind, I am not demeaning anybody but it looks odd with confronting. Since few days, I have been following the CNN and BBC that are other good sources to realize the style immediate.
In fine, this site is very good for slow learner. _________________ Quazi,(46) a writer, thinker & humanist
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