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Never before had we-- #16 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:17 pm   Never before had we--
 

I suspect you are trying to say
Never before had we expected that we would have received such a massive response
but it is still garbled.
You cannot combine 'never before had we...' with '...we would have received'.

The originals are better.
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Never before had we-- #17 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:33 pm   Never before had we--
 

Does it mean while starting a sentence with adverbial form,you can't use other clause
that makes complex or compound complex sentence?
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Never before had we-- #18 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:59 pm   Never before had we--
 

No, it means that the particular case you are using does not make any sense semantically or grammatically.
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Never before had we-- #19 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:02 pm   Never before had we--
 

Minhajquazi wrote:
So, should it be?

"Never before had we expected such a massive response".
For me, it seems easier and simpler to say "We never expected such a massive response", assuming that's what you mean....
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Never before had we-- #20 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:07 pm   Never before had we--
 

For Ms. Bev,
It does imply, you can use conditional clause with 'if' immediate after adverbial clause, can't you?
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Never before had we-- #21 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 13:27 pm   Never before had we--
 

Allifathima wrote:
Luschen,
"Seeing the Taj Mahal is wonderful."
In this sentence is 'seeing' a gerund or not?
Are the following sentences correct or not?
1. Never before had we received such a massive response!
2. Never before had we thought we would receive such a massive response.


Yes, "seeing" is acting as a gerund.

I think both sentences are correct. Personally, I would write the second one "Never had we thought we would receive such a massive response." because the "before" seems redundant here.
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Never before had we-- #22 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 17:01 pm   Never before had we--
 

Hi Luschen!

what about this below?

Is it another adjective like 'applauding'? or gerund? whatever it is please explain why.

"The applauding crowd rose to its feet."
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Never before had we-- #23 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 18:24 pm   Never before had we--
 

Minhajquazi wrote:
Hi Luschen!

what about this below?

Is it another adjective like 'applauding'? or gerund? whatever it is please explain why.

"The applauding crowd rose to its feet."


"Applauding" is indeed used as an adjective in your sentence. The term gerund is used only when a verb acts as a noun. When the present participle of a verb acts as an adjective, like "applauding", it is often referred to as a "participle adjective".
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Never before had we-- #24 (permalink) Mon Feb 13, 2012 19:28 pm   Never before had we--
 

Ok thanks Mr. Luschen and including all,

Telling you frankly, I have already examined my position where did I do wrong as 'seeing'.

'Seeing the Taz Mohal' is the 'gerund phrase', single word 'seeing' gerund.

It is more easy than find out the participles or modifiers in a sentence, specially when they are not absolute or appositive phrase.

Another matter is confronting with the natives this way, better I can find out a lot of famous native writers references in the internet! Never mind, I am not demeaning anybody but it looks odd with confronting. Since few days, I have been following the CNN and BBC that are other good sources to realize the style immediate.

In fine, this site is very good for slow learner.
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