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#2 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 13:45 pm Second-guess |
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To me, second guess means to doubt your own or someone else's decision.
"With the rain starting to fall, I am second-guessing my trip to the beach."
"I would not second guess any of this." means "I agree with all of it." |
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#3 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 13:52 pm Second-guess |
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| Luschen wrote: |
"With the rain starting to fall, I am second-guessing my trip to the beach."
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Hi Luschen,
Is it the same as "I'm having second thoughts about my trip to the beach"?
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#4 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 14:13 pm Second-guess |
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| Maybe my example wasn't the best. You second-guess something after the decision has been made - you are already at the beach. You have second thoughts while you are still in the process of making the decision - you have not yet left for the beach. |
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#5 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 14:16 pm Second-guess |
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I see the difference now, Thanks again!
PS: I just looked it up here: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/have+second+thoughts It says that
have second thoughts to consider changing a decision you have already made
I'm a bit confused, since you said that it means that [b]you're in the process of making the decision[b] :) Could you elaborate some more, maybe I'm missing something.... _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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#6 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 14:30 pm Second-guess |
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| I guess they are more similar than I thought. I do think that "second-guess" would come later in the process, "after the damage has been done" so to speak. Also, you can second-guess yourself or others, but you only have second thoughts about your own decisions. |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 14:36 pm Second-guess |
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Ok, thanks for the heads-up! I appreciate the fact that sometimes native speakers have slightly different opinions on stuff related to their language. :) Or it could be that this particular dictionary messed up on this one. _________________ If it's not easy, don't do it!
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#8 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 14:58 pm Second-guess |
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Dictionaries give two different definitions for "second-guess" that are almost opposites. This is from http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/second-guess :
1 (American) to criticize a decision after the results of the decision are known
2 to guess what someone is going to do or what will happen
Luschen's understanding of it seems closer to #1 (which would obviously make sense if he/she is from the US), whereas I am from the UK and I normally understand it to mean #2. |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 15:32 pm Second-guess |
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| Our Tort System wrote: |
Ok, thanks for the heads-up! I appreciate the fact that sometimes native speakers have slightly different opinions on stuff related to their language. :) Or it could be that this particular dictionary messed up on this one. |
I would go with the dictionary! Especially with slang and idioms I think you are right that everybody has a slightly different definition in their minds. If you look at urban dictionary you can see the controversy over the definitions of some terms. |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Feb 15, 2012 17:53 pm Second-guess |
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| Luschen wrote: |
To me, second guess means to doubt your own or someone else's decision. "With the rain starting to fall, I am second-guessing my trip to the beach." "I would not second guess any of this." means "I agree with all of it." |
Thanks, Luschen.
| Dozy wrote: |
Dictionaries give two different definitions for "second-guess" that are almost opposites. This is from http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/second-guess :
1 (American) to criticize a decision after the results of the decision are known
2 to guess what someone is going to do or what will happen
Luschen's understanding of it seems closer to #1 (which would obviously make sense if he/she is from the US), whereas I am from the UK and I normally understand it to mean #2. |
Thanks, Dozy. |
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