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I would have had to hit him if he hadn't shut up | one sentence containing three tenses (past, present and future)
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considered #1 (permalink) Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am   considered
 

1. "David is considered a Christian as are/were all other members of his family."
2. "David is considered as a Christian as are/were all other members of his family."
Are these sentences correct?
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considered #2 (permalink) Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:09 am   considered
 

They are.

Using 'were' indicates that the other members of his family are now deceased.
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considered #3 (permalink) Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:16 am   considered
 

Hi Allifathima,

I presume you wanted to know the difference between 'considered a Christian' and 'considered as a Christian'. The difference is one of distinction between the general and the particular. By adding 'as' you are putting greater emphasis on 'a Christian' but this is only a slight difference.

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considered #4 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:46 am   considered
 

1. I considered David as a true Christian.
2. I didn't consider him as a teacher.
3. He considers his teacher the best.
4. He considers his teacher as the best.
5. Sita was considered as an excellent teacher.
Which are correct?
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considered #5 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 18:12 pm   considered
 

Alan,
Could you please help me?
Thanks.
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considered #6 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2012 20:55 pm   considered
 

Allifathima wrote:
1. I considered David as a true Christian.
2. I didn't consider him as a teacher.
3. He considers his teacher the best.
4. He considers his teacher as the best.
5. Sita was considered as an excellent teacher.
Which are correct?
In amost all cases of "considered (as) a <noun>", the word "as" is in my opinion redundant, and the sentence is better off without it. The only time where I see a difference in meaning, or any reason to use "as", is when "consider" actually means that someone discusses and deliberates. For example:

a) He was considered a candidate.
b) He was considered as a candidate.

(a) means that people regarded him as a candidate. (b) means that some people sat down and debated his merits.
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considered #7 (permalink) Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:37 am   considered
 

Dozy,
1. I don't consider Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden as good examples for Islam.
2. I don't consider Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden good examples for Islam.
Which one is correct?
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considered #8 (permalink) Thu Mar 08, 2012 18:07 pm   considered
 

Beeesneees,
Could you help me?
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considered #9 (permalink) Thu Mar 08, 2012 18:23 pm   considered
 

Both are. Alan and Dozy have already explained why.
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