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Horizon broadening (cross cultural training) Sat May 27, 2006 0:50 am  Horizon broadening (cross cultural training)
 

Hi Jamie,
I have a problem with generalisation.
In my opinion if there is even only one exception of a rule,that rule isn't worth too much anymore.
Real life is always different than statistics.
Show me one math teacher who ever won on lottery.
You are only one person, and even with all of your acqaintances together still just a few people who divide millions by their experience.
Because you're a teacher, your friends probably teachers as well from the States, more likely than a Russian miner.
That miner sees a couple of things of life a bit differently, and if he makes generalisations, I'm not sure if those would be the same as yours.
I wouldn't even be sure he's not wiser than anyone of us.
There is another thing too:
If someone has that much of self-possession like making generalisation of people, then he might not be able to acknowledge if he's wrong every once in a while.
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Generalizations Sat May 27, 2006 0:56 am  Generalizations
 

Hi Spencer, this is very good food for thought. Let's see how this discussion develops further...
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Horizon broadening (cross cultural training) Sat May 27, 2006 11:25 am  Horizon broadening (cross cultural training)
 

Hi,
I read emails of Jamie carefully and don't see any generalization(not worth to mention).
I think if you don't have to work with many nations and many different people you don't need to be critic because of some habits and people after all may get the wrong impression (too much personal)
I never would be able to guess before how multinational environment may be coming out with some situations.
It is somehow a found treasure to read Jamie because you may get something in words what you normally won't be able to read in strict political correct text.
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Horizon broadening (cross cultural training) Sat May 27, 2006 11:32 am  Horizon broadening (cross cultural training)
 

Captain Jan wrote:
To all imperative imperators- removing messages is a sign of deterioration of the forum not the sign of it improvement.
Jan

Hi Jan,

Would you please tell us what messages you are referring to? Also, please specify who exactly you call an imperative imperator and why? As far as I can see all the forum members who are interested in exchanging their ideas and thoughts have real names and I'd greatly appreciate it if you would call us by our names rather than by some vague titles.

Thanks,
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Horizon broadening (cross cultural training) Sat May 27, 2006 18:07 pm  Horizon broadening (cross cultural training)
 

Hi Jan,
A couple of months ago
Anonymous wrote:
"And second, sorry if my English is so unintelligible. I did my best to make myself understood. It's a pity that English-speakers cannot communicate in any other language.

At least, non-native speakers do try to speak English."

Jamie wrote:
"Don't stereotype. I can communicate with you in three other languages, and I would understand you in at least another three or four"

At this time I totally agreed with Jamie.
Allthough in Europe Americans have bad reputation of not speaking any other language ( it's not even a reputation, it's kind of fact, since I know a lot of them who spent even some months here and still don't know one word of Hungarian, put in context after spending two months in Canada I passed my driver licence-exam with no help of interpreter) I do know it's NOT true, a lot of them speak other language, just NON OF US HAVE MET THEM.

Someone please tell me what's the difference between generalisation and stereotype.
If I say:
"I've never met any American who spoke other language than English, so I think most Americans only speak English"
Whichone did I just do?

Don't get me wrong, this is not my point of wiew, I just would like to point at the danger of making generalisations.
Someone's going to get offended always.
Why don't anyone make generalisations from the other way?
Which country the most of scientists come from?
Or something like this.
Just for a change Smile
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Horizon broadening (cross cultural training) Sat May 27, 2006 18:49 pm  Horizon broadening (cross cultural training)
 

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Would you please tell us what messages you are referring to? Also, please specify who exactly you call an imperative imperator and why?

Hi Torsten and Hi everybody,
I write sometimes just to fast ( without thinking )but I don't mind at all, it is even surprise for me afterwards.
Well some of my emails which I wrote before after short period just disappear.
Of course they were probably political incorrect (I guess) and I understood what is quite a standard at my house maybe somewhere else will be just offensive, but it kills the fun of reading answers (well fun for me).
I don't know who my be the" i. i. "but I like him already very much.
Of course the first suspected is me myself ,I was born long before first computer appeared
and seamen are traditionalist and we are quite happy to do
things like they were in Bible or something like this.
regards
Imperator Jan
I can't tell the difference about generalization and stereotype good enough ,but I read the Jamie posts with interest and it is sometimes impossible do not generalize and I have nothing against generalization - everything except what will be boring please.
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Horizon broadening (cross cultural training) Sun May 28, 2006 13:46 pm  Horizon broadening (cross cultural training)
 

Jan wrote:
Hi Torsten and Hi everybody,
I write sometimes just to fast ( without thinking )but I don't mind at all, it is even surprise for me afterwards.
Well some of my emails which I wrote before after short period just disappear.

Hi Jan,

We don't remove any messages from our forum members. (I'm not talking about SPAM which is not posted by forum members.) On our forum there is nobody who censors other people's thoughts and decides what's politically correct or incorrect.
Are you sure some of your messages are missing?
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