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Thu Jun 01, 2006 15:47 pm Spitting image or spit and image? |
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Talking about dropping the r’s, some people stick them in words that don’t have any. For example, ‘Chinar is’ (native English speakers often say that) instead of ‘China is’. Then there is ‘wabbit’ instead of ‘rabbit’, but maybe this only happens in the Bugs Bunny cartoons? I don’t think I have otherwise heard people replace r’s by w’s. And how about replacing l’s by w’s (I’ve heard that often enough), like ‘fiwm’ instead of ‘film’.
I thought some of you might want to have a look at the hundred most often mispronounced words and phrases in English: http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/mispron.html
Don’t miss ‘Old-timer’s disease’, ‘take for granite’, ‘Laura Norder’ (must be a cousin of ‘Chinar is’!), ‘a blessing in the skies’, ‘doggy dog world’ or our much debated ‘close’! |
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Conchita Language Coach

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Thu Jun 01, 2006 16:18 pm Accents |
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Stone me Concheeta wear you git all this 'ere stuff! I couldn't 'ardly believe me eyes when I seen it. Wot woz u finking?
Al _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Word Story: Dictionary |
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Alan Co-founder

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Thu Jun 01, 2006 16:56 pm I dunno nuffin’ no more |
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| Alan wrote: | Stone me Concheeta wear you git all this 'ere stuff! I couldn't 'ardly believe me eyes when I seen it. Wot woz u finking?
Al |
Is that supposed to be language rebellion? Or is it your way of letting off steam after too much grammar and ‘good’ English?
Anyway, to me it’s more like ‘laughotherapy’! |
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Conchita Language Coach

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Thu Jun 01, 2006 18:23 pm Aberration |
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Hi Conchita,
Yes, you're right. I feel much better now.
Alan _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story A day in the life of a flat hunter |
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 19:53 pm Spitting image or spit and image? |
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| Conchita wrote: | Talking about dropping the r’s, some people stick them in words that don’t have any. For example, ‘Chinar is’ (native English speakers often say that) instead of ‘China is’. Then there is ‘wabbit’ instead of ‘rabbit’, but maybe this only happens in the Bugs Bunny cartoons? I don’t think I have otherwise heard people replace r’s by w’s. And how about replacing l’s by w’s (I’ve heard that often enough), like ‘fiwm’ instead of ‘film’.
I thought some of you might want to have a look at the hundred most often mispronounced words and phrases in English: http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/mispron.html
Don’t miss ‘Old-timer’s disease’, ‘take for granite’, ‘Laura Norder’ (must be a cousin of ‘Chinar is’!), ‘a blessing in the skies’, ‘doggy dog world’ or our much debated ‘close’! |
Hi Conchita
That's an interesting link. Wasn't Tom asking about "difficult-to-pronounce" words?
Many parts of New England are notorious for adding "R" to the ends of words that end in "A" and meanwhile dropping the R from the end of words that actually end with that letter. My brother-in-law is a never-ending source of entertainment for me in this respect. 
I always think of the W instead of R (as in "wabbit") to be the pronunciation of a baby learning to talk. (Or maybe someone with a speech impediment.) But when I think about Elmer Fudd, I always think of that "waskely wabbit" Bugs Bunny. 
I noticed that the word "bidness" (business) was on the list in your link. I'd expect Texans (for example) to be prone to this pronunciation... and I wouldn't be surprised to hear "Dubya" say the word that way. 
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Thu Jun 01, 2006 20:20 pm Spitting image or spit and image? |
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| Conchita wrote: | | Talking about dropping the r’s, some people stick them in words that don’t have any. For example, ‘Chinar is’ (native English speakers often say that) instead of ‘China is’. |
This is called "intrusive R". It's the extension of a rule that speakers of non-rhotic dialects have. The basic rule this R-dropping functions by is this:
Don't pronounce the R before a consonant. Pronounce the R before a vowel.
So these people will say:
Your car was here. [y@ ka: w@z hI:]
But they'll say:
Your old car is there on the lot. [y@r old kar iz ther an th@ lat]
Most of them won't say "Chinar is...", but some of them do extend the rule of pronouncing the final [r] before a vowel, and they insert it after any non-high, non-rounded vowel when it is before a vowel. This means they also add [r] where the word itself doesn't really have one.
Almost the only big thing I didn't like about the British textbooks I taught from in Europe was that they instructed students to insert this intrusive R as if it were a part of standard English. All it does in most places is make the foreign speaker sound a little comical. |
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:08 am Amanda Martin-Brock's accent? |
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| Interesting debate on the origin of Amanda's American dialect but the truth is that her "British" accent is due to being raised in South Africa. |
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 15:55 pm What is the accent |
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Wed May 23, 2007 5:24 am Amanda Martin Brock's accent |
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| Originally from Mbabane, Swaziland, Amanda was raised in Zimbabwe and South Africa. She attended the University of Natal in South Africa as a pre-law student, graduating in 1980 with a degree in English and Political Science. Pursuing a career in law, Amanda moved to Baton Rouge, Louisiana to attend law school at Louisiana State University (LSU) where she was a member of the Law Review. |
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