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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'



 
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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English' Sat May 27, 2006 17:05 pm  'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'
 

Dear teachers

Which one is correct?

1-Your child is promoted to the next class on undertaking for English.

2-Your child is promoted to the next class on undertaking on English.

Thanks in advance

Tom
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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English' Sat May 27, 2006 18:31 pm  'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'
 

Tom, these two sentences made me laugh. Laughing (Sorry).

It sounds like you're talking about the child learning how to be a funeral director Shocked (with some kind of English connection).

Could you exlpain, please? What's your goal? To use the verb "undertake" properly?

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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English' Sat May 27, 2006 20:07 pm  'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'
 

Dear Amy

The intended meaning is that at the end of the academic year the child may be promoted to the next class if the parents give an undertaking(promising that he would improve upon the required area if promoted to the next class). Now it depends which area the child needs to improve upon. If it is English then could we say:

1-Your child is promoted to the next class on undertaking

on English / for English.

Waiting for response

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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English' Sat May 27, 2006 20:28 pm  'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'
 

Hi Tom

Sorry, I don't know this way of using the word "undertaking". And therefore I can't give you any input regarding the preposition.

It sounds to me as if some other word or description would be better.
For example: Your child is promoted to the next class based on the parental guarantee of English improvement.

Maybe somebody else has an idea here... Question Question Question

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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English' Sat May 27, 2006 21:17 pm  'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'
 

Hi Amy! Hi Tom!

Amy I?ve never seen you puzzled before. As I?m not an proficient English User I would substitute undertaking for educated Shocked
Might be I?m wrong but I?ve done my very best.

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Undertaking Sat May 27, 2006 21:35 pm  Undertaking
 

Hi Tom,

I would suggest that you write:

Your child will be promoted to the next class given a parental undertaking that he/she will improve his/her grade in English

for

Quote:
1-Your child is promoted to the next class on undertaking
for English.

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'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English' Sat May 27, 2006 21:57 pm  'undertaking for English' vs. 'undertaking on English'
 

Hi Alan and Amy

I can't thank you enough. (You will really help me become a moderator on his forum one day Very Happy )

Now when I fully understand the use of undertaking, I would request you to help me understand the use and meaning of the word GIVEN in your sentence.

"Your child will be promoted to the next class given a parental undertaking that he/she will improve his/her grade in English "

Again Thanks

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Given Sat May 27, 2006 22:43 pm  Given
 

Hi Tom,

Given in my sentence means providing that/accepting that.

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