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Hi Heropsychodreamer,
Many thanks for joining our community and sharing your experiences. As your current situation shows, it is possible to learn several languages at the same time. That means, you can learn more than one language if you spend a little time on every language every day.
For example, in the morning you can listen to the Pimsleur Polish tapes while in the afternoon you listen to Pimsleur Italian. In the evening you record a few sentences in Polish and then you write a short email to your Italian friends.
The next morning you wake up happy and you log on to english-test.net where you find a lot of interesting discussions on how to learn languages one of which is called Can I learn 2 languages at the same time?
By the way, your name sounds intriguing and we would like to learn more about you. For starters, you might want to give us some information on why are learning new languages? And why have you picked Italian and Polish?
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| Mon May 29, 2006 12:58 pm Learning Multiple Languages |
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hi there.
Well... i fell in love with French 2 yrs ago, while travelling through europe (i am australian by the way, so dont have great exposure to other langauges)... and i decided to learn it. Pimsleur, in my opinion, was the easiest way to improve, as i could constantly learn new words/sentences while also going over old ones. Its been great.. and while i cant always go through a lesson daily... i try to as often as i can.
Now i'm into the 3rd unit, its getting tough, but am enjoying the challange. I actually found when i was in france not long ago, i could speak the language, but couldnt understand what they were saying... so i'm also now focussing on building up the vocab. (I dont think Pimsleur has as much focus on vocab, just the usual words... but thats ok still, cos i'm understanding the structure, i can find more vocab in other places)
I chose Italian recently (it was either that or spanish)... i wanted to see how i went with a similar language, and so far its been SO much easier. I guess because its all very similar, i just need to learn the words, and the structures are basically the same. French and Italian also have many words that are used in english, so its not totally daunting.
Polish on the other hand... thats been tough. Pronunciation of a lot of these words and remembering them has been a challenge but i'm getting there. Funny thing is, i'm part Polish... haha, so i'm gonna stick through it, with the added benefit of my family to help me. So you know, i've never been taught a word of Polish.
Now my girlfriend who is half indonesian wants me to take up indonesian (bahasa i think its called????)... so thatd be interesting... but i can say the odd thing.
I'm studying in International Business... so a background in some languages would be really handy, and i just love learning new things!!!! Id like to be fluent one day in at least one language, but i'll keep it going, and see how it goes! Its been great fun so far! |
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| Mon May 29, 2006 13:36 pm How learn multiple languages with Pimsleur |
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| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | hi there.
Well... i fell in love with French 2 yrs ago, while travelling through europe (i am australian by the way, so dont have great exposure to other langauges)... and i decided to learn it. Pimsleur, in my opinion, was the easiest way to improve, as i could constantly learn new words/sentences while also going over old ones. Its been great.. and while i cant always go through a lesson daily... i try to as often as i can. |
Hi Michael,
Isn't the Internet an exciting medium? I have never been to Australia (not yet) and thanks to the WWW I can speak to you. Why did you travel to France and what do you think of the French when it comes to speaking English? I mean, did you speak French when you were there? Also, how did you come across Pimsleur, did a friend of yours recommend it to you?
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Now i'm into the 3rd unit, its getting tough, but am enjoying the challange. I actually found when i was in france not long ago, i could speak the language, but couldnt understand what they were saying... so i'm also now focussing on building up the vocab. (I dont think Pimsleur has as much focus on vocab, just the usual words... but thats ok still, cos i'm understanding the structure, i can find more vocab in other places) |
You are right, Pimsleur is great to get you started and you can use the tapes to build and refresh basic phrases. In addition (at the same time) you should listen to other resources too to reinforce what you have learned through Pimsleur.[/quote]
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Polish on the other hand... thats been tough. Pronunciation of a lot of these words and remembering them has been a challenge but i'm getting there. Funny thing is, i'm part Polish... haha, so i'm gonna stick through it, with the added benefit of my family to help me. So you know, i've never been taught a word of Polish. |
Yes, a Slavic language is probably more challenging to you than Italian, Spanish or Portuguese. Interestingly enough, Polish also contains quite a number of English words such as fajne (fine), sukces (success) and skuter (scooter). Well, of course there are more such examples.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I'm studying in International Business... so a background in some languages would be really handy, and i just love learning new things!!!! Id like to be fluent one day in at least one language, but i'll keep it going, and see how it goes! Its been great fun so far! |
Where do you want to work once you graduate?
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| Mon May 29, 2006 14:24 pm How learn multiple languages with Pimsleur |
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Hey, yes the internet is excellent, and so many resources. I travelled through Europe, where i had friends all over the place... i was went to France to see the sights, and then the south of France as its just the most beautiful place.
I tried to speak french while i was over there, and i could initiate a conversation, but once they responded... a lot of the time it was too much for me to take in... as i get better and learn more words, itll become easier though.
I found pimsleur off the net, searching for learning tools.
Yes, i'm keen on listening to Rosetta Stone, to learn from a different view... plus movies, books etc. Just have to find the time. French is my main language of interest... at the moment, the others are there still of interest, but i really want to become fluent in french especially.
I didnt realise polish included a number of english words... i am looking fwd to learning it, as my family are a great learning tool... and i'm only just starting... so i hope it will get easier... but nothing gets easier without practise i guess!
At the moment i'm looking to major in Accounting and Int Business... so probably accounting, but int business may open more doors... we'll see, i'm only starting university, so theres a long way to go!!!!
Honestly... nothing impresses me more than a person who can speak multiple languages... now obviously they may live in a country that borders another (unlike mine!), but i'm not going to let that stop me.
What langauges do you speak??? By the sounds of it, a couple!!! I also figure, even if i'm not fluent, knowing the basics of many languages would be handy, in case i tour europe or something someday soon! |
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| Mon May 29, 2006 14:59 pm How learn new languages with Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone? |
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| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I tried to speak french while i was over there, and i could initiate a conversation, but once they responded... a lot of the time it was too much for me to take in... as i get better and learn more words, itll become easier though. |
Michael, I think it's always a challenge to interact with people when you start learning their language. Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone are great programs because they provide you with the basic phrases. For example, if you can say and use the following phrases in the target language you will be able to expand your vocabulary through interaction with native speakers:
- Could you repeat that, please?
- How do you spell this?
- What part of speech is this? (Is this a verb, a noun or an adjective?)
- Could you explain that word/phrase, please?
When you hear a word that is, try to say it to a native speaker so they can tell you if you pronounce it correctly. Have fun pronouncing words without knowing the meaning of those words. Don't bother about the meaning, concentrate on the pronounciation. This is the only way of learning of new vocabulary. If you enjoy communicating with people and making new friends, it will be easier for you to learn new vocabulary words and sounds.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I found pimsleur off the net, searching for learning tools. |
That's interesting. Do you remember the key words you put into Google (I take it you used Google?) when you Pimsleur turned up? I mean, what exactly were you looking for when you came across Pimsleur?
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I didnt realise polish included a number of english words... i am looking fwd to learning it, as my family are a great learning tool... and i'm only just starting... so i hope it will get easier... but nothing gets easier without practise i guess! |
I'm not sure how many English words the Polish language has absorbed but I do know that Polish contains more English words that any other Slavic language.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | At the moment i'm looking to major in Accounting and Int Business... so probably accounting, but int business may open more doors... we'll see, i'm only starting university, so theres a long way to go!!!! |
Do you use a specific Accounting textbook? What do you like about accounting?
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Honestly... nothing impresses me more than a person who can speak multiple languages... now obviously they may live in a country that borders another (unlike mine!), but i'm not going to let that stop me. |
What about the many tourists who visit Australia and the foreign students who study in your country? Do you get a chance to speak to them?
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | What langauges do you speak??? By the sounds of it, a couple!!! I also figure, even if i'm not fluent, knowing the basics of many languages would be handy, in case i tour europe or something someday soon! |
Well, I started to learn Russian at the age of 6 and ever since I have been using this language on a daily basis. As you know, Russian is belongs to the Slavic language family and if you speak it you also understand the other Slavic languages and it's easier for you to learn them. For example, I've picked up some phrases in Polish and if you like you can read more about in a short story called How good is your Polish?
Let me know what you think,
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| Mon May 29, 2006 17:18 pm How learn new languages with Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone? |
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Hi Torsten
I understand how to say most of them. But good idea, will get them into my head! I dont really know anyone who speaks French... so it makes it tough (which is why i want to give Polish a try, and possibly indo... because i can talk to people) But as i said, i'm determined to become fluent in french someday.. someday. I know i'll need to fly back over a few times to help accomplish that.
I play volleyball down in Australia, and we havehad internationals come over. THey all speak multiple languages... they say they learnt it all at school. I keep in touch and they try to help me a bit, one is german, one is dutch... both speak french. I caught up with them last time i was over that side of the world... good to know people!!!!
I'm sorry, i dont remember where on the net i found pimsleur... when i started, i looked all over the place for french tools... web sites, search engines... i somehow found it though one of the above.
I do use specific books for accounting. I enjoy the number crunching, i'm great with numbers... its all very easy... unfortunately new languages arent so easy!!!!
I love the russian language (since i've started studying french, i've found a love for nearly every language... and how they differ!).. i would have chosen Russian as my 3rd langauge, but i felt polish would be easier, as i have people to help me!
where abouts in europe are you from? Is russian all you speak? Are you interested in learning new languages as well? |
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| Mon May 29, 2006 17:27 pm How learn new languages with Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone? |
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| Torsten wrote: | When you hear a word that is, try to say it to a native speaker so they can tell you if you pronounce it correctly. Have fun pronouncing words without knowing the meaning of those words. Don't bother about the meaning, concentrate on the pronounciation. This is the only way of learning of new vocabulary.
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That sounds weird to me... i dont doubt you know what you're talking about... but isnt knowing the meaning of the word important? Or does it slow you down... as in knowing the word means you have to translate it in your head. |
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| Mon May 29, 2006 18:44 pm How to learn new vocabulary? |
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| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Torsten wrote: | When you hear a word that is, try to say it to a native speaker so they can tell you if you pronounce it correctly. Have fun pronouncing words without knowing the meaning of those words. Don't bother about the meaning, concentrate on the pronounciation. This is the only way of learning of new vocabulary.
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That sounds weird to me... i dont doubt you know what you're talking about... but isnt knowing the meaning of the word important? Or does it slow you down... as in knowing the word means you have to translate it in your head. |
Hmm, maybe this methods works only for me. Here is how I learned German, my mother tongue, and I have been learning Russian and English: Whenever I hear a new word or phrase -- be it in a conversation, on TV, the radio, an audio book, etc. -- I first make sure I can pronounce it. I simply repeat the word or phrase several times until I feel comfortable pronouncing it.
Then, if I get the chance, I ask a native speaker what the word or phrase means and how it spelled. Or I try spelling it myself using Google.
To illustrate you can take a look at Where do you cash checks? Of course you also take read a text in silence and simply look up new words in the dictionary.
The question is, how many words will you memorize this way? Will you ever be able to say and use those words? I mean, how does Pimsleur work? You first listen to phrases and try to repeat them, don't you? What about your native language, how did you learn that? Did look up every new word in the dictionary or did you first pronounce it?
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| Mon May 29, 2006 20:19 pm How learn languages with Pimsleur |
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| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | Hi Torsten
I understand how to say most of them. But good idea, will get them into my head! I dont really know anyone who speaks French... so it makes it tough (which is why i want to give Polish a try, and possibly indo... because i can talk to people) But as i said, i'm determined to become fluent in french someday.. someday. I know i'll need to fly back over a few times to help accomplish that. |
Michael, have you tried to practice your languages through Skype or any other voice communication program? You could speak French, for instance, with people from Europe without having to travel there physically.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | where abouts in europe are you from? Is russian all you speak? Are you interested in learning new languages as well? |
I live in Leipzig, Germany. Have you ever heard of this place? Yes, I am interested in learning new languages -- I speak a few Italian phrases and practice them whenever I get the chance. Leipzig has become quite an international city and you can hear a variety of languages being spoken with Russian being the most popular one (after German of course).
Of course you can find Polish speakers here too -- Poland is an EU country about 1.5 hours away from Leipzig. As for your other question, my native language is German and I have been learning Russian and English. I understand a little bit of French and can speak some basic Polish, Czech and Italian.
My goal is to be able to live and work in any country so I can practice and improve my language skills and experience a different ways of life.
What about you, where in down under do you live?
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| Wed May 31, 2006 11:35 am How learn languages with Pimsleur |
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Hi Torsten
No i havent tried Skype yet... sounds like an excellent idea, but not quite yet, i'm still learning, and i need to build up my vocab... i think once i can understand french movies and news a bit better i will start the conversations. There is no point if i cant understand what they say. But i am getting closer. And i am understanding more and more.... hmmm practise!
Yes, i've heard of Leipzig. Was in Germany over the new year. For a few days only. Around Stuttgard, Heidelberg, Minz and Weizbadon. I loved Heidelberg especially.
I agree with your goal... for me, to be able to travel around europe and speak at minimum, the basics would be fantastic!
I live in Melbourne... South East part of Australia... beautiful city... not many french speakers... well not that i know of!
Going on your other message... i agree that just continally listening and hearing the sounds of the words is so helpful. I need to keep learning my vocab, to understand how what it means... but the more i listen to french, the more words i pick out... like how at the start... someone would say something, and it just feels like its one big word... cos its so fast. now i'm starting to split it up. So its good. But to understand what the word means already obviously makes it A LOT easier.
I'm also starting pen pals... though my written french isnt great... its probably time to learn!
So you speak Russain, English and your native German... is italy your next big language... or just a smaller project? Any other languages that interest you?? |
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| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | Hi Torsten
No i havent tried Skype yet... sounds like an excellent idea, but not quite yet, i'm still learning, and i need to build up my vocab... i think once i can understand french movies and news a bit better i will start the conversations. There is no point if i cant understand what they say. But i am getting closer. And i am understanding more and more.... hmmm practise! |
Yes Michael, it makes sense to build your vocabulary so that you will understand more and then you can engage in conversations. However, you can also sign up with communities like PalTalk where you simply listen to other people. You don't have to say anything yourself, just listen and pick up some new phrases.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | Yes, i've heard of Leipzig. Was in Germany over the new year. For a few days only. Around Stuttgard, Heidelberg, Minz and Weizbadon. I loved Heidelberg especially.
I agree with your goal... for me, to be able to travel around europe and speak at minimum, the basics would be fantastic! |
You have probably also noticed that when you travel abroad it is not so important how well you speak the local language how you approach the people living in that area. If you try to speak their language and you ask them to help you, they will do so -- at least in most cases. If they understand that you are interested in their culture and language, they will want to share something with you.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I live in Melbourne... South East part of Australia... beautiful city... not many french speakers... well not that i know of! |
What about the university, youth hostels, internet caf?s and other places? Have you tried to find French speakers there? You might want to ask pub owners or shop assistants, who knows, they might tell you how many (or how few) of their customers are French speaking.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Going on your other message... i agree that just continally listening and hearing the sounds of the words is so helpful. I need to keep learning my vocab, to understand how what it means... but the more i listen to french, the more words i pick out... like how at the start... someone would say something, and it just feels like its one big word... cos its so fast. now i'm starting to split it up. So its good. But to understand what the word means already obviously makes it A LOT easier. |
Of course it's ideal if you can pronounce a new word and also understand its meaning at the same time. This will make it much easier for you to memorize and use the new word and soon it won't be a new word any longer...
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I'm also starting pen pals... though my written french isnt great... its probably time to learn! |
Pen pals is a great idea -- I used to have some and if you like you can read How to get to Heraklion? in which I describe how I started to learn English...
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | So you speak Russain, English and your native German... is italy your next big language... or just a smaller project? Any other languages that interest you?? |
At this point, Italian is a language I enjoy hearing or listening to. Someday soon I will travel to Italy and stay there for a while so I can mingle with the local people and learn the language more actively.
By the way, can you distinguish different English accents? I mean, can tell what country a person comes from when you hear them speak English? (native speakers as well as ESL speakers?) Is there any English accent or dialect you like most?
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| Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:31 am How to learn English with Pimsleur |
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Hi Torsten
I have noticed that a large number of people throughout Europe speak english and were happy to help me out. Especially in Netherlands. I have always heard about french rudeness and arrogance etc... but they were some of the nicest people... and to be honest, i tried to speak french and i was friendly, so there is no real reason to not be polite in return. They were very kind though.
Im finding it interesting watching french movies etc nowadays. Or just hearing french in general. I'm slowly moving into the stage where i hear a word and dont need to translate it to english, because the french version is just as recognisable (though saying that, i need to still keep building up my vocab!! )... and as i'm not needing to translate as much, and am understanding more and more, i'm becoming even more motivated to learn!
Great to hear about your italian, and your plans on travelling down to italy and improving you knowledge... i guess have the knowledge of how you learnt two languages, makes it SO much easier to start again as you know the better and more efficient ways of improving.
Yes, i am very good at understanding accents... not only for English, American, Australian, New Zealand etc accents... but french, italian, german, swedish etc. My favourite accents are Irish by far, and french. I can also speak in irish, french, british and american accents. Obviously not 100% identical to their accents but its not tough to mimic them.
I guess, if i could speak german, you could tell that i had an australian accent when i spoke??? Can you pick english accents up?? I guess it just takes time, to pick up how different people/nations pronounce words differently.
just a question on pimsleur... at the moment i'm re doing the 2nd unit... so that the words i learnt are firmly implanted in my head What should i expect after the 3rd unit? Is there are large difference at the end of the 2nd or 3rd? Can i understand faster spoken french? I guess... i am asking how far does the 3rd level take me. i know i wont be fluent or anything and will still take me a lot of study to do so... but will i understand significantly more??
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| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | Hi Torsten
I have noticed that a large number of people throughout Europe speak english and were happy to help me out. Especially in Netherlands. I have always heard about french rudeness and arrogance etc... but they were some of the nicest people... and to be honest, i tried to speak french and i was friendly, so there is no real reason to not be polite in return. They were very kind though. |
I'm happy to hear this. I think when it comes to cultural differences we have to beware of stereotypes and generalizations. Because of the history the French do take pride in their language and culture and there might be occasions where some of them are reluctant to communicate in English. This might be because of some events in the French/British history or some political influences. On a personal level, however, I think most people are friendly and open up to you when they sense you come as 'a friend' (this might be a simplified explanation though).
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Im finding it interesting watching french movies etc nowadays. Or just hearing french in general. I'm slowly moving into the stage where i hear a word and dont need to translate it to english, because the french version is just as recognisable (though saying that, i need to still keep building up my vocab!!)... and as i'm not needing to translate as much, and am understanding more and more, i'm becoming even more motivated to learn! |
I wish more people would follow your example. I agree with you, once you get into the habit of watching movies the target language you will be able to make progress in your learning constantly. And what's most important: Understanding new words will boost your confidence which makes you feel good. You can learn only if you like what you are doing. The hardest part of learning a new language is to get started. Once you have overcome your initial inhibitions, that second language becomes part of your daily routine and then it's not longer 'new' or 'foreign'.
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Great to hear about your italian, and your plans on travelling down to italy and improving you knowledge... i guess have the knowledge of how you learnt two languages, makes it SO much easier to start again as you know the better and more efficient ways of improving. |
You are right Michael. Also, if you know why are learning a language you find it much easier to learn it. When I started to learn English, the language was a bit like Latin to me because we could not imagine how and where we might use it. (the only country we were allowed to travel to freely was the Czech Republic). The reunification of Germany changed the situation dramatically. Now, I can travel to any country I want. The UK and Ireland are just a 2 hour flight away. (at a cheap one for that matter)
I can even go to Australia and live there for a while...
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | Yes, i am very good at understanding accents... not only for English, American, Australian, New Zealand etc accents... but french, italian, german, swedish etc. My favourite accents are Irish by far, and french. I can also speak in irish, french, british and american accents. Obviously not 100% identical to their accents but its not tough to mimic them. |
So you must have had a lot of exposure to all these different accents. Where do you hear an Irish accent in Australia? I know one Irish person who moved to down under and he is running a website called MemoryMentor and I think he likes Australia pretty much. I guess the sun shines more in Australia than in Ireland. By the way, I like the Irish accent too -- especially their distinctive intonation. (they tend to raise their voice at the end of a sentence).
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | I guess, if i could speak german, you could tell that i had an australian accent when i spoke??? Can you pick english accents up?? I guess it just takes time, to pick up how different people/nations pronounce words differently. |
To be honest, if you spoke German I'm not sure I could tell you are Australian. I think I can distinguish between the main English accents, primarily from listening to audio resources or watching CNN where you can hear a diverse range of English accents (native speakers as well as ESL). I can also identify most Russians when they speak English.
But what about songs? I mean, can you distinguish where a pop or rock singer is from when they sing?
| Heropsychodreamer wrote: | | just a question on pimsleur... at the moment i'm re doing the 2nd unit... so that the words i learnt are firmly implanted in my head What should i expect after the 3rd unit? Is there are large difference at the end of the 2nd or 3rd? Can i understand faster spoken french? I guess... i am asking how far does the 3rd level take me. i know i wont be fluent or anything and will still take me a lot of study to do so... but will i understand significantly more?? |
I think when you complete the 3rd level and you are comfortable with all the material it will be easier for you to understand spoken French and also to pick up new vocabulary. I recommend in addition to Pimsleur you listen to other authentic sources on a regular basis. Integrate them into your daily activities. For example, if you have a car and you use it everyday, listen to French dialogues or audio books in addition to Pimsleur. Mix Pimsleur with other materials you will see the positive effect this will have on your learning.
Also, because you can distinguish between differen accents, I suppose you like music? If so, do you have any songs in French?
Talk to you soon,
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Hi Torsten
To be honest... i believe that people who say the french are rude... or tend to generalise about these type of things have had a bad experience... met a french man who wasnt so polite, and just except that as being the culture. Honestly... i met one or two rude people along my trip... some guy in Amsterdam pulled a knife on me, the first person i met!!! i got away fairly easily though... but its just the minority who are like that... I'm not going to say Amsterdam is full of horrible people because of that one situation, because thats just not true!
Yes, my confidence grows as i become better with the language. And its different elements to the language.. like at first, i could speak better than what i could understand. Now, i can understand a lot more, but it still takes a while to say the right words. I do believe itll all come together one day... and to be honest, i need to start reading more, so my spelling improves! But one thing at a time... i believe once i can understand more clearly... i will be able to get into more conversations, and that will improve my talking skills. It all goes hand in hand.
To be honest... one of the reasons i come to this website... this forum, is to hear other people talk about their experiences... how they find pimsleur, how they learnt a new language... techniques, methods etc... i like to hear that people have worked hard, and become fleunt... hearing that i think is the biggest way to boost my confidence... because if others can do it, why cant i? Its just about work ethic then. And other stories can inspire me to work harder... its great to hear.
I guess my main exposure is simply tv... and movies... its great... i large variety of movies with locations etc... it just gives me an ear for an accent. I do know a few irishmen down here... actually, there are a few irish pubs, and plenty of good people behind the bar.
I cant really tell as easily with songs... i can pick out an irish accent... and european accents are noticable, but i cant pick which one is which. But no, not as well.
I do look forward to finishing the 3rd unit... one day And yes, by the time its all done, it will probably just a whole easier to pick up new things, because i will have a stronger base to the language.
I love music as well... though i havent got into french music... another good idea though. To be honest, it can be so easy to immerse myself in french... music, movies, pimsleur, books... etc etc. |
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I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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