Get to know vs. recognize

[Alan]

Hi,

Is this an attempt to suggest that 'recognise' in the context of the sentence means:

'peer recognition' ?

I notice you refer to 'recognition' and 'recognise for'. How does 'better' as used in the sentence fit in with this 'concept'?

You can similarly play with the meaning of 'understand' as a verb and switch to the noun 'understanding' suggesting an agreement. But you change the first meaning that way.

Alan
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[Esl_Expert]

Hello Alan,

A manager might encourage peer recognition as a way to build/improve teamwork. That same manager might find spontaneous/unplanned peer recognition alone to be a bit too haphazard, and thus might find one or more organized events (at which co-workers recognize each other) to be better and more effective.

That's how I would interpret the word 'better' in the context of the sentence when the word 'recognize' is used. I believe Angus has also attempted to explain this to you.

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[Alan]

Hi

I feel that is stretching the meaning beyond a sensible proportion.

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[Angus77]

Given the number of people who have, in reality, read it exactly that way (backed up by beeesneees's investigation), I think it would be unreasonable to find such an interpretation unacceptable.

What evidence would you find acceptable? You reject empirical evidence and you reject the authority of the Oxford Concise.

[Torsten]

Angus, can you please quote or show me a dictionary or any other source that says that the phrase 'to recognize each other better' means to 'give more recognition'? What you have been referring to is one of the meanings of the word 'recognize'. However, we are talking about a phrase not a single word. So far I have not seen any written 'evidence' that the phrase 'to recognize each other better' means 'to give more recognition to each other'.

It would also be great if you could show me at least one single written sentence that contains the combination "colleagues recognize each other better" with the meaning you have been trying to promote.

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[Angus77]

@Torsten: The way I've already interpreted it above was not 'to give more recognition.' It was to express that recognition in a better way. Now go back and read the sentence and tell me if it still doesn't make sense.

[Torsten]

Hi Angus, we are going round in circles. I understand there is no written source (a dictionary, a website, a journal, a newspaper, a company brochure, etc.) that uses the phrase the way you are trying to interpret it. Interestingly enough, when you google the phrase 'recognize each other better' there doesn't seem to be any page that uses the phrase your way either. So maybe it's used by you and some of your friends. It doesn't seem to be used in written English though.

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[Alan]

Hi,

Let's end with a song.



I trust you recognise this ditty.

Alan
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[Angus77]

@Torsten: We are not going around in circles. You completely misrepresented what I claimed (it's on the record). Did you even bother to go back and reread the sentence after being corrected, or is it your intention to go around in circles?

When you google the phrase 'recognize each other better' there are 36,400 hits. You sifted through them all?

Not that it's relevant. Nobody has made the claim that it's in any way a common thing to say, nor have I claimed that I (or my friends) have ever actually said it. My claim---my only claim---is that it is valid English.

When I do a search for the phrase "My mother beat her husband repeatedly" I get exactly 0 (zero) hits. Will you now claim that this sentence is invalid English?

@Alan: Thanks for the cute ditty. I just hope you don't think it's somehow making a point.

[Torsten]

[Angus77]

Ignoring the fact that the lack of results is irrelevant. Did you bother to read the rest of my post? I'm not going to bother to repeat it.

You're reading skills have already been called into question on this thread by your egregious misinterpretation of my explanation (which you have yet to acknowledge) and your misunderstanding of a common rhetorical device. Now you have now skipped almost an entire post which already answers your last post. If you want to go around in circles, that's certainly the way to do it.

The onus is on you to show why the exact phrase "recognize each other better" must appear in a Google search in order to validate the sentence, especially given that that isn't even the exact phrase as used in the sample sentence (notice how it doesn't turn up in the search? That should have been your first clue that something was amiss).

Please explain to the public why the frequency of use of a very specific phrase is the determining factor for its validity. Please use the phrase "My mother beat her husband repeatedly" to prove your point.

And please quit dodging. This is all quite public.

[Licinio]

I see there's been quite a lot of discussion on this sentence, which I've read rather cursively.
I was wondering, though, if Alan's statement "You need get to know here because it refers to a process taking place at the event" really justifies using "get to know" rather than "know".
In my view you can't meet someone better, you just get a chance to meet him. That's why I was prompted to fill the blank with "know".
What do you think?

[Angus77]

You shouldn't waste your time here with reasonable rebuttals. All you'll get is Alan looking down his nose at you for not having the answer he wanted you to have, and Torsten claiming that if nobody's ever written it before, it couldn't possibly be valid English.

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[Licinio]

Thanks. I spoke on the assumption that "get to know" was only an action verbal expression that leads to the state verb "know".