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#137 (permalink) Fri Jul 07, 2006 0:16 am Englishuser |
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Hi,
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| Fan of Arabian horses wrote: "What do you want to talk about" concerning my opinion to Englishuser as moderator. I decided against it because I wanted to see what happens with him. |
Just like other people have implied, I think that we had better stop discussing me here in the forums. |
Hadn't Michael already decided to do that?
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| It's nice to read what you write about me, but I'm afraid it's a waste of time. There are more important and more intriguing topics that we could be discussing instead. |
I agree. But you contradict yourself in a different thread.
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| For instance when I posted a question about gendered speech I did so in an attmempt to create a debate on a more general level about gendered speech: how men and women write and speak a language differently, and why such differences exist. Instead, I found posts where people were discussing my gender. |
Come off it! The very choice of topic begs the question. And you yourself made sure the topic of you and your gender continued along:
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| I find this question very interesting. It's natural that you're a bit curious about my identity: after all, I have started many quite controversial discussions here in the forum. I've also supported views that many people find irksome to say at least. I don't mind that a debate is going on about my gender. In fact, I think that it's both amusing and interesting. Gender-related issues, amongst accents, appeal to me. And I will definitely start new discussions related to language and gender in the future as long as you find them interesting. So, to get to the point, why do I keep my gender (and nationality) in secret? Why do people visit websites anonymously? Perhaps because you can do much more that way. If you write using your name, your education, your nationality, and your country as your merits it's great, but some people might prefer to reveal less about themselves as it gives them more freedom. An even more important question is: does my gender and my nationality matter? Would people treat me differently if they'd know my gender and my nationality? |
And then you finish off in the "Gendered Speech" thread by directing the focus squarely on yourself from a new angle and initiating those "more important and more intriguing topics that we could be discussing instead":
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| And, in addition to all this, do you think that my writing style is uniform? Do you think that the genre of my texts is the same in all of my posts? It'd be nice to hear what you think about this, too. |
Genre: A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content.
The word "con-artist" comes to mind as a category.
To Tamara: I'm really very sorry this happened in your thread. |
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#138 (permalink) Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:08 am Englishuser |
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Hi Yankee,
I hope that we can end all discussions about me at this very moment. When it comes to the "gendered speech" thread you ought to admit that my initial post was neutral. I can't help that other posters post comments and guesses about my gender if I try to start a discussion on gendered speech. It's true that I posted some comments in the thread that were truly narcissistic and that seriously do lack importance. I was encouraged by other posters, and I feel that I have the right to defend myself if people start making guesses about me and my personality. But, like I said, I think we should be spending our time much more wisely. I will not bring myself up as a topic in any further posts unless it's relevant for some reason. Which means that it probably won't happen.
All the best to you, Yankee, and hopefully we can continue discussing various issues in the forums without it giving rise to so many negative comments and remarks. I will do my very best to be as neutral as possible in future posts. |
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#139 (permalink) Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:31 am I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! |
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congratution (Huge) To you Tamara
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Hi Dark magician!
Huge and darkred thaaanks to you! I wish you the best luck in getting visa! Keep us informed, please.
See you, Tamara _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#140 (permalink) Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:48 am I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! |
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Hi Michael and thanks you for your cordiality. I really feel your warmth.
Hi Amy Respect for the post.
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| that don?t belong here. |
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| I'm really very sorry this happened in your thread. |
Don’t mind. I really like this thread and people who come here to communicate. To tell a story, to smile or just to say “hello, everybody, nice day, isn’t it?”. To keep in tough with each other.
And I don’t consider it as a posh reception-room where people always must ‘keep smiling’ and, in fact, have no rights to say what they want to say. I agree with Pamela when she said that we are like a big family. Where any conflict of interests should be resolved carefully and before the family gets unhealthy and suffered because of accumulated (outwardly restrained for too long) negative.
I think that we're all adequate, friendly and constructive enough. And hope.
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#141 (permalink) Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:56 am Englishuser |
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Hi Englishuser
I agree with the Amy's post. A tendency to switch focus on yourself (explicitly or implicitly) and being too defensive (avoiding criticism) generally prevent becoming a good moderator.
I agree with you - when you agree with others to stop to deepen in negative (not constructive) talking.
It's not a great secret that we all love this Forum and really wish to see it developing, getting better and comfortable for all it’s members.
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#144 (permalink) Sat Jul 08, 2006 21:59 pm Soccer and horses :) |
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Hi, Michael and my congratulations to Bastian Schweinsteiger! Great!
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All the time I thought that you have the only Arabian mare, but now I started to think that you look after a herd. 
By the way, recently I came across and learnt a new word tend as a (slightly old?) synonym for 'look after'.
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#147 (permalink) Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:16 am I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! |
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Hi Michael
Yesterday's soccer game was good, wasn't it? But what I think is even better is the wonderful atmosphere that has accompanied this World Cup. Germany has been magic! It's been a real pleasure for me to experience "World Cup fever" in Germany this year. |
Hi Amy!
You?re perfectly right, that?s one more aspect of the current "WC". I?m a bit ashamed now about my post at Alan?s dreading the World Cup. And yes, yesterday?s game was really good and that was what I meant when I wrote the German team is capable playing on the top in opposite of some formerly German teams, who only thought that they were. Nevertheless I?m happy that the Portugese did shoot a goal too as they were absolutely equally good but had a little less good luck.
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By the way, Tamara's new word "tend" has more than one meaning. She was (correctly ) using it this time with the meaning of "look after" (maybe in German you'd use an expression with k?mmern or versorgen). You have to tend your horses.  Amy |
This is one more evidence for my ignorancy in English. I probably would have used "looking for" for your German expressions, what certainly has the meaning of "searching", hasn?t it? 
Oh my goodness, what a challenge learning a second language! Always when you think you?ve got it, there is a new provocation.
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#148 (permalink) Sun Jul 09, 2006 18:33 pm I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! |
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Hi Amy! Hi Michael!
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| You have to tend your horses. |
Exactly. The fragment where I'd read (to my great surprise) this new-old word is:
… Smaller tortoise from Southern Europe and North Africa make popular pets. They need to be tended carefully in cool climates and must have a warm place in which they can hibernate...
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But were do you know from? Were you needed to watch the game, because your husband is a soccer-fan? |
My son is. Each time when there is an interesting and emotional moment, he lets out a yell and wants me immediately to watch it in (TV) repetition. My husband is uninterested in football at all (thank, God ). But he is a devoted fan of Formula-1 
It reminded me a half-forgotten Russian song "А пони тоже кони" ("Ponies are horses, as well") – in which a young boy regularly comes to a true pony to feed (to it) a doughnut.
It’s just a pun, as in Russian 'doughnut' pronounced like 'ponchik'. Moreover, the suffix '-chik' is diminutival and endearment. (English analogies are, for examples, doggy or pig-piglet, duck-duckling).
So, pon-chick is a play on words, as if you say dearly 'a tiny little pony, a baby-pony' 
(is -chen/lein in German used for the same purpose?)
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#150 (permalink) Sun Jul 09, 2006 22:54 pm I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! |
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| Yes, -chen/lein are to make things or persons more nice. But it also depends on the area whether you also could -eken or some other stupid suffixes could add to the noun. For example: Mann, M?nnlein, M?nnchen, M?nneken Mannderl and so on.......... |
Hi Michael
You forgot "M?nnle"... 
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