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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sat Sep 16, 2006 13:32 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi Tamara!

Nice new pic! Hopefully that you never try that in a kettle ful of "Piranhas"! Laughing

Seriously, a friend of mine tried to catch some young Piranhas (5-7 cm long) with his hands. He drove one into a corner of the aquarium and when the fish didn?t see any way to defend it beated my friends finger. Although the fish had been rather small it beated a piece out of my friend?s hand. Adult Piranhas can achieve a length of about 27 to 30 cms.

Also interesting about Kois is that you posssibly might have had the value of a middle-class Brilliantring at your finger Wink . Kois, in Japan, are symbols for richness. From what I?ve heard they may achieve a worth of some 100,000$ and mostly worthful are that which have a red point on the forehead while being totally white at the rest of their body.

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sat Sep 16, 2006 20:38 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

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Some specialised software and equipment. Screen readers, Braille displays, and so on. When I myself become more familiar with that, then will be able to answer more detail questions Smile

I see, Tamara! Sounds very intriguing and interesting. Keep us informed Very Happy
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sat Sep 16, 2006 20:45 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi, Tamar

I noted you enjoy in your life, and that good, and I wish you always were happy in your life. My real friend.

You give here a color of hope Yes.. Yes.. Yes..

you are here like sun raises everyday. Very Happy

I watched... you love animals and me too.

Before one year I had a small bird and it was very beautiful but unfortunately my parents afraid of him and let him went.... I was very sad. Sad

You Knew, before one year ago the most people afraid from birds....

I sure your work is perfect.... good luck to you and to all your family...

Especially your a water tortoise. Wink

Tamar is the Sun in this website...

Mba
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sat Sep 16, 2006 21:01 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi,Michael! Very Happy

you are good friend in this website Very Happy

I think you note that, you are drawing the best pictures here.
Michael Tamara was know you are busy and she said:

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suppose Michael is also very busy, with all those interview giiirrrrlssss – one prettier than another,… you know

Or maybe he’s just jumped upon his lovely grey Arab horse, put her into gallop and they both are now having some wonderful adventures somewhere, far from this loooong thread.


if that your excuse no problem........ good work Wink

Michael thank u about your kind, and I'll happy when you need Kitchen I'll halpe you without money my friend. Smile

you are always welcome ................

Mba
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sun Sep 17, 2006 13:18 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi to all!
Smile Smile Smile

Pamela, I will. (Not, of course, in echange for you informing us about your application process. Smile But… Wink )

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and me too
Smile
Dark, I really love you (and animals too)! Wink Smile
And this website! And the true Sun! And… ... and ... !!!Smile

… Your small bird… Sad Yes... when we lost our pets... it's never forgotten…
But, nothing doing. Let's now have a positive look...
Many nations have some celebrations when people let folded pigeons in the sky…for the best, symbolically… for happiness….. don’t be sad, Mba…

And... thank you, indeed.

Michael! Smile
Good Sunday to have classes, isn’t it? Smile

Oh… That poor fearful young Piranhas… Smile
In Russian we have the saying 'a cornered rabbit' – that means that ANY (even quite calm and peaceful) animal or human being pressed or scared too much, can become actually dangerous.
There are recorded cases when rabbits, having no other choice (to run away, to avoid), just bravely and desperately attacked foxes – and sometimes succeeded Smile

Brilliantring?
I understand the meaning (of course Smile Wink), but, I think there is not such an English word.
Is it German saying? (The reason I ask is that a ring itself is made of metal – gold, platinum, etc. You understand.)

Anyway, I am not that kind of women. Even though I have an inherited ring with four (natural and quite good, but not too large Smile ) diamonds and a tiny ruby in the middle – I’m the third generation's woman in my family tree, who possesses it.
But actually I very rare put it on (and don’t love wear rings with gems at all).

By the way, I always look rather with the irony at women (and men Smile) being too care about external attributes of their status. Smile
That’s really might be because lack of something in my head - that prevents me to be(come) a true bourgeois woman Smile Very Happy Hopelessly… Smile Smile

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…and mostly worthful are that which have a red point on the forehead while being totally white at the rest of their body.

…Large red spot, yes. I saw that fishes – snow-white, with bright red area on the head. Hmm, rather fearful image, as for me… But, maybe, I’m too sensitive Wink
and it only should call us to some philosophical thinking - White Angel with bloody head … (not hands, thank God…)

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100,000$
Anyway, I’ve never seen a fish that would cost more than ?5,000 (that is less than $8,000).
Smile

By the way, can you give a rough estimation for the cost of a (young) Arab horse in Germany? (Arab-German Smile)

Have a nice Sunday (… classes, ride, whatever Smile Wink )

Tamara
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sun Sep 17, 2006 22:14 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
By the way, can you give a rough estimation for the cost of a (young) Arab horse in Germany? (Arab-German Smile)

Hi Tamara!

To be honest, I actually can?t give you an imagination of a price for a horse at all neither for an Arabic nor for a Haflinger. It always depends on several circumstances like the family tree the education and also on the appearance of the specific horse.

Imagine there is a stallion (an Arab, breeded in Russia) called Kubinec (in specialist?s rounds a rather well sounding name), decorated with lots of world-champion-titles which changed recently its owner for more than one million Dollar. Many breeders buy seeds of that stallion to insert it into their mares. That?s the top. And many of Kubinec?s descendents get sold for high salaries because Kubinec is registered as an ancient and it doesn?t matter how good the descendent is in fact and what education it has.

On the other hand there are lots of horses which have a fine body and good talents and are well educated but can hardly be sold as in their family tree aren?t registered any world champions. You can get such horses for an amount between 2000 and 5000 Euros.

I myself had paid for my Arabic mare an amount of 2000 Euros. I bought it from a friend. In its familytree there are two champions and my mare itselfs was breeded at a rather famous (at least in Germany) breed-station (Ostenfelde). But when I bought my mare in the age of 4 years she(it) had been pretty uneducated but healthy. For me it was important that the mare, I bought, is rather pure in blood and healthy. And later I heard that she has a rather pretty fine back-line. Hmm......... So what? Sometimes it seems the price you pay for such a horse depends on that much inccidents and on a good luck beside of some comprehension about horses when you buy it from strange people. You can believe me the horse market is a rather dirty one. And horses like Kubinec you and me weren?t ever able to buy albeit we would have the money.

Michael

Are you interested in buying a horse, by the way? Rolling Eyes Wink
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sun Sep 17, 2006 22:28 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi Dark magicain!

Thank you for your complements! Cool

I must admit that I always am impressed from the pictures you often offer. But mostly impressive are the pictures about the kitchen you showed. Anyhow it is a bit of you, isn?t it?

See you

Michael
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Mon Sep 18, 2006 14:37 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi Michael!

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Are you interested in buying a horse, by the way?
Smile
I think, life is never 'too short' to thiiiiink about Smile Very Happy

Just in case: are you going to clone your grey ladykin in the near future? Smile

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Kubinec
As I know, those great horses from Kuban (Southern Russia) are traditionally used for so-called Kremlin Horse Guards (actually, I don’t know how it is called in English).
They are very impressive (I saw how they work).

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You can get such horses for an amount between 2000 and 5000 Euros.
As the UK is the country where having a horse is quite normal (in the small town area I live,
I know at least eight privately owned horses – and sometimes see them 'under saddle' slowly and stately going for a walk Smile )

Once I asked a local man how much 'an ordinary horse' can cost and he said "about 2000 pounds".

By the way, I'm often faced with the fact that something that costs $15 in the US (for example, a particular book published by international Publishing House), - in the UK can cost exactly ?15 (!). Almost one and a half as much!

I suppose this is (also) because of "unit-thinking" - psychological phenomenon Smile.
Living and working in the UK, I pay ?1 for a sandwich with the same feeling, as I would do that in the US, living, working and paying Smile $1 for the same (exactly Smile) sandwich.

The same man added that proper horse maintenance is much more expensive. Smile

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well educated
Michael, are you sure with the verb? I myself actually don’t know what verb we should use for animals – are they trained or educated.

Thank you for your interesting answer!

Wishing your horse even more health and talents,
and (to you both Smile ) new wonderful discoveries in her family-tree , Smile
Tamara

P.S. http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/complement.html
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Tue Sep 19, 2006 19:37 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
Pamela, I will. (Not, of course, in echange for you informing us about your application process. Smile But… Wink )
Tamara

Of course, Tamara, I promise! Wink
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:42 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
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Are you interested in buying a horse, by the way?
Smile
I think, life is never 'too short' to thiiiiink about Smile Very Happy

Just in case: are you going to clone your grey ladykin in the near future? Smile

Hi Tamara!

If you think about buying a horse you also should think about learning a new foreign language, which might be as difficult as a human language is. Isn?t that a challenge? Wink
I myself don?t think about cloning my mare because the costs probably would be too high. Like your below mentioned relative said: thew maintenance of a horse is more expensive than the salary in order to get one. In this sense I never could achieve the amount I needed if I would clone her and sale the clone.

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Kubinec
As I know, those great horses from Kuban (Southern Russia) are traditionally used for so-called Kremlin Horse Guards (actually, I don’t know how it is called in English).
They are very impressive (I saw how they work).

Sorry, I think this is a missunderstanding. Embarassed That Kubinec, I mentioned, is a very specific stallion, an Arabian horse, which won lots of prizes on breeder shows and many of breeders bought its seeds in order to get its excellent characters.

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well educated
Michael, are you sure with the verb? I myself actually don’t know what verb we should use for animals – are they trained or educated.

I?m quite sure that education is the correct verb for what I mean as education is the basic presupposition for a successful training. You can figure out that if you try to lift the hoof of an uneducated horse. Shocked When I bought my Arabian mare I didn?t consider this point, trained her and was proud how nice she behaved while training. Firstly when it came to expect something from her what she didn?t like I noticed what education of a horse means. Laughing

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Wed Sep 20, 2006 13:12 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi Michael!

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you also should think about learning a new foreign language
Foreign? Smile
It seems that I’ve learnt the 'dog language' with great ease, quite naturaly Very Happy Wink
Situations which I've happen to have experienced with (sometimes amusing, sometimes dangerous) allow me to be thinking that I could find common language with most dogs, even uneducated Smile
(except well-trained guard-dogs while carrying out their job Smile and heavy traumatised animals Sad
And not with the troop of dogs that has a strong people-hated leader...

You maybe don't know that in many Russian cities/towns (and suburbs) there are such troops of half-wild dogs - and they are generally much more dangerous than "pure wild" animals...)

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I think this is a missunderstanding.
That Kubinec, I mentioned, is a very specific stallion, an Arabian horse…

Ah, yes, Michael, I’ve mistaken that because of its name that sounds to me similar to [KubAnets] = 'having origin from Kuban'

(By the way, in Russian 'Kubinec' = Cuban Smile )

Now I know what you actually meant: http://www.vandansik.com/kubinec.html (sculptures)
( http://www.arabiandreams.net/index.htm )

Really great and noble animals Exclamation

About 'education' – I understand what you mean. Smile ( Even though it's not a verb Smile )

All well-bred (well-brought-up Smile) people know well that in many cases we Smile should, have to and even need - to do what we actually don’t like to do.
And not to do – never! - what we would wish to do. Smile
Some people even manage to not have 'impossible' (bad Smile ) wishes at all! - and I knew some. Poor (high-bred) fellows! Smile Laughing

See you,
Tamara
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What's wrong with "to educate"? Wed Sep 20, 2006 15:21 pm  What's wrong with "to educate"?
 

Hi Tamara!

I?m a bit confused! Confused What?s wrong with education/ to educate?

I mean, as even the translator babylon suggests to educate when I ask for correct translation of the German verb "erziehen"?

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All right with "to educate". Sure! :) Wed Sep 20, 2006 15:53 pm  All right with "to educate". Sure! :)
 

Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
I?m quite sure that education is the correct verb…

Michael, I don't speak German and I’m not, of course, so advanced as 'even-the-translator-babylon' Smile, but I am still sure that education is not a verb. Smile

And this was the only reason for my small-font smile Smile
Your translation itself sounds pretty good to me.

… Don’t be so serious… say 'cheeeese' Smile
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All right with "to educate". Sure! :) Wed Sep 20, 2006 17:31 pm  All right with "to educate". Sure! :)
 

Tamara wrote:
Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
I?m quite sure that education is the correct verb…

Michael, I don't speak German and I’m not, of course, so advanced as 'even-the-translator-babylon' Smile, but I am still sure that education is not a verb. Smile

And this was the only reason for my small-font smile Smile
Your translation itself sounds pretty good to me.

… Don’t be so serious… say 'cheeeese' Smile

Oh dear eagle eye Tamara!

I hate being wrong! Twisted Evil Wink Can?t we change the meanings of the English words? I mean I give you a word and you may guess whether it is a verb or a noun? Laughing

cheeeeese.......... Laughing

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You have the right to be wrong. You have the right to fail... Wed Sep 20, 2006 23:20 pm  You have the right to be wrong. You have the right to fail...
 

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I hate being wrong!

Michael, I understand… As much as only one true perfectionist can understand another one. Smile

But… we are trying to use actually foreign language and I will do continue 'using red color' as much as possible. Sure Smile
Of course, you have the full right to return flowers Smile

You have the right to be wrong.
You have the right to make mistakes.
You have the right to fail…
©

Cheese? Smile Hmm.
Well...
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"Cheese" used as a verb is not something one runs into every day. The oldest sense dates back to the 17th century, when "to cheese" meant simply "to become cheese." This usage is rare today, although I certainly felt as though I was becoming cheese in hour three of the recent remake of "King Kong." You know a movie has jumped the shark when people start applauding the giant slugs.

"Cheese" as a verb was also, in the mid-20th century, what the Oxford English Dictionary calls "school slang" meaning "to smile," probably from the classic photographer's instruction to "say cheese." (Smile)

"Cheese it" did indeed arise as thieves' cant, or lingo, meaning "stop what you're doing" or, in the form "cheese it," to run away quickly, to "beat it." It first appeared in the early 19th century, but the derivation of "cheese" in this sense has never been certain.
http://www.word-detective.com/0706B.html
Also:
http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Grose-VulgarTongue/c/cheese-it.html
(Smile pardon my French Smile )

Thanks, I didn't know that Smile

See you,
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