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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 0:21 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
It’s just my feature: I don’t like indeed a detailed planning of a rest too long before Smile

This sounds so like me! And it's also a typical Spanish attitude. Germans, on the contrary, are more organised and like to plan ahead -- at least the ones I know.

Smile
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:09 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi Conchita! Smile

Many (most?) Britons are (also) very pragmatic and focusing on ‘what’s going on’.

Definitely, Russians, in general (and me, in particular Smile ) are more carefree about detailed planning in advance Smile
But ‘here and now’ (another extreme attitude stating by dzen Buddhism) is still ‘too much’ for my mind, as well).

Russia are in between - not pure Europe and not Asia, you know Smile

See you all next day!
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 13:05 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
Hi, Michael,

Quote:
up and down
How about:

hither and thither
but and ben / but-and-ben
from pillar to post
wigwag
туда-сюда (in Russian)
Smile

Hi Tamara!

You?re always surprising me with such expressions I didn?t know before. Especially your Russian term I spoke aloud lots of times! Laughing


Tamara wrote:
Quote:
I hope that it wasn?t to pushy

By the way, you?re really an eagle eye! Wink

Not a bit.
It’s just my feature: I don’t like indeed a detailed planning of a rest too long before Smile

Tamara and Conchita, if you didn?t know a German, who doesn?t have a plan for his leisure time, before, now you know one. Of course there are some activities I have to do every day, for example cleaning up the stable, but I don?t plan that to the minutest detail. I mostly have a look on thew challenges the day brings. Cool


Tamara wrote:
…At my ESOL exam I am ready to tell a touching story-in-the-past from my early childhood Smile , to describe formally my specific process of learning new words (‘know how’ Smile ), to ask plenty of rubbish questions keeping up a dialogue, etc…………..

As I could read in one of your formerly posts you are anyway buisy. Rolling Eyes

Tamara wrote:
P.S. Tomorrow I am going to London from the early morning and till late at night.

Have a (next) nice day! Smile
Tamara

I hope you enjoyed your day in London. What did you do there? Have you had a sight seeing tour or a buisiness day. Did you visit Speakers Corner? Rolling Eyes

I myself have a relaxing day! That?s important for me because the first day at my new job I?ve got injured. I was able to work the next two days indeed, but as today is a holiday I?m happy to be able to relax. Please don?t ask me where and how I?ve got injured. Most people get laughing when I?ve told them the matter. Laughing

See you soon

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 13:37 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
I myself have a relaxing day! That?s important for me because the first day at my new job I?ve got injured. I was able to work the next two days indeed, but as today is a holiday I?m happy to be able to relax.

Congratulations on your new job, Mike! It sounds dangerous! I hope it's half as exciting or, at least, that you like it. Do you want to tell us about it?

Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
Please don?t ask me where and how I?ve got injured. Most people get laughing when I?ve told them the matter. Laughing

Please, do tell! You can't just leave us in suspense like that! Anyway, you won't know if we laugh, will you now?
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 15:18 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Conchita wrote:
Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
Please don?t ask me where and how I?ve got injured. Most people get laughing when I?ve told them the matter. Laughing

Please, do tell! You can't just leave us in suspense like that! Anyway, you won't know if we laugh, will you now?

Conchita's right, Michael! You can't say something like that and then just leave us all hanging! Shocked And why in the world would we laugh? After all, we're very sympathetic people! Laughing

Amy

PS
The word sympathetic is a "false friend" for Germans. Did you know that? Cool
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 17:14 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi Conchita! Hi Amy!

Okay Ladies, it seems to be a wish of your hearts to hear what happened to me. But don?t claim that I didn?t warn you of asking me. Wink

Now, I?m happy that this isn?t a site with cameras, otherwise you would see me walking along like a big German breeding bull after having a half years holiday. Laughing As Monday was a hot, sudorific day and I wore synthetic trunks I think you can imagine now what happened to me. Wink Laughing In German you would say: I ran myself a wolf. Embarassed

Thanks for congratulating me for the new job. It isn?t an exciting one, if you watch the safety instructions. I?m working as a mechanist in the final assembly at a machinefactory, at least for a few month as my direct employer is a time job agency. You see, my job isn?t dangerous!

Thanks for your sympathie Cool

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Thu Jun 15, 2006 17:24 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Take a great Hello from me,Tamara!We have one thing in
common.I'm not a Russian but I speak Russian and consider it as my native one.I'm sure you'll take a great pleasure from this site Very Happy I think the best way to master the language is talking with native speakers.So you have the best opportunity to improve your language skills via communication not only at the forum but with your surroundings.
Have a nice day!
Bye! Very Happy
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:31 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi! I’m very glad to see you all!

Michael,

Just to polish your Russian still more Smile :
your initial ‘up and down’ (in the first and direct meaning: up and down a stairway) in Russian is вверх-вниз Smile
But as we can also pace up and down (to and fro), I had added some informal and old-fashion phrases for its second meaning Smile

By the way, but and ben mentioned above, is interesting. As I know, it’s from the North (from Scotland), where an ancient house traditionally has one entrance and rooms situated by a suite (sequentially). Or there were only two rooms (the first was called but and the far room – ben). Being in Glasgo, I heard ‘far ben’ many times.
So, but and ben directly means to and fro.

Returning to your stair exercises in a hot weather Smile … let me (not laughing up my sleeve Smile ) just quote in the context one of my most lately Reading (pre)tests (‘Marathon Training: The right Way’ Smile Very Happy ) :
Quote:
1. Run on grass and footpaths as well as on roads because you will use a wider variety of leg muscles. Running up and down steep hills will also strengthen the muscles.

6. … Finally, then the big day arrives never try anything new… On the day of the race don’t wear new kit, or change your drinking or eating patterns.

Smile Very Happy

Quote:
Have you had a sight seeing tour or a buisiness day.

Just the latter. Busy-ness day, I mean Smile The whole day at a trot Smile, with an unavoidable visit in the end. For the last bit…
But as I live in 70 miles from London, I already had had (…had had had…Smile ) enough time and times to wonder at Speakers Corner Smile

P.S.
Quote:
really an eagle eye!

…dog’s sense of smell, horse-power, mongoose’s fearlessness (-lessness…Oh my God!…), ………………..
If to join a variety of those animal’s features to which humans traditionally envy what a monster would it be! Smile

See you,
Tamara
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:35 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Привет, Pamela Smile
I’m very pleased to meet you. And I always read all you posts - with pleasure.

… It’s funny to use English talking with Russian natives Smile but I’ll do it. Despite the soooorrowful fact, that my English is still poor and much worse than my Russian. And due to it Smile

Thanks for your support!
Tamara
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:27 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Fan of Arabian horses wrote:
Okay Ladies, it seems to be a wish of your hearts to hear what happened to me. But don?t claim that I didn?t warn you of asking me. Wink

Now, I?m happy that this isn?t a site with cameras, otherwise you would see me walking along like a big German breeding bull after having a half years holiday. Laughing As Monday was a hot, sudorific day and I wore synthetic trunks I think you can imagine now what happened to me. Wink Laughing In German you would say: I ran myself a wolf. Embarassed

Embarassed Shocked Laughing Embarassed Thank you for quenching our curiosity (pure, but not morbid, I'm almost sure...). My laugh is a sympathetic (or consolation) one, really -- though I must say it's very hard to keep a straight face at your image of the breeding bull!!

Doesn't the German expression 'to run yourself a wolf' have several meanings? In which other circumstances could you use it? I still have no idea how to translate it and would like to be sure that I correctly grasp the meaning.

Tamara wrote:
By the way, but and ben mentioned above, is interesting. As I know, it’s from the North (from Scotland), where an ancient house traditionally has one entrance and rooms situated by a suite (sequentially). Or there were only two rooms (the first was called but and the far room – ben). Being in Glasgo, I heard ‘far ben’ many times.
So, but and ben directly means to and fro.

That's an interesting piece of culture! Thank you, Tamara.
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 17:59 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
Привет, Pamela Smile
I’m very pleased to meet you. And I always read all you posts - with pleasure.

… It’s funny to use English talking with Russian natives Smile but I’ll do it. Despite the soooorrowful fact, that my English is still poor and much worse than my Russian. And due to it Smile

Thanks for your support!
Tamara

Привет,Тамара!You are very active!Great!To my opinion your language is not poor!You critisize yourself without any ground!
Bye!
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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 18:10 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi all!

I?m happy that I was able to bring a small light of joy into your cheerless life Laughing and having brought a small smile into your straight faces by using witchcraft! Laughing

Conchita, to quench your curiosity completely out Wink :having a wolf in German, at least in that area where I live, means to have a sore part at the skin. Having run oneselves a wolf describes in addition the special part of the body where the sore skin is depending to. Interestingly here is that nearly everybody can remember having him/herself experience with similar happenings. Rolling Eyes Especially sportsman/-women. So I?m in a honorable society. Wink

Sorry, I?m used to stop me posting now because I want to see whether some Dutch soccer-player or some from the Ivory-coast will run himself a wolf. Laughing

See you

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 21:28 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Thank you, Pamela, for the compliment Smile

Pamela wrote:
You critisize yourself without any ground!
As sometimes I am even too self-confident, it’s much more safe for me to put me from clouds down on land - by myself Smile

To be more serious: if I still lived in my country, my English would not be ‘poor’ (for I’m not a language tutor). But for where I am residing, my English skills are ‘toy’ and not enough indeed - to hear and see the peace around in all its sounds, colours and half-tints. And not feeling myself as a native daltonian Smile
(… doomed to have just occasional bits of light spilled on my cheerless face solely due to Michael’s favour - and in spaces between football matches Smile )

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Fri Jun 16, 2006 23:40 pm  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Tamara wrote:
To be more serious: if I still lived in my country, my English would not be ‘poor’ (for I’m not a language tutor). But for where I am residing, my English skills are ‘toy’ and not enough indeed - to hear and see the peace around in all its sounds, colours and half-tints. And not feeling myself as a native daltonian Smile
(… doomed to have just occasional bits of light spilled on my cheerless face solely due to Michael’s favour - and in spaces between football matches Smile )

Tamara

Hi Tamara!

What are you complaining about? Wink If you will go on learning the British history you certainly will raise up to the British of the year. Cool Not this year probably, but as we experienced in formerly posts we agree: the longest way starts with the first steps and you have done many of them until now. Meanwhile we can go on posting - if there isn?t a soccer match Shocked Soccer is really important for me. You know what my interest in soccer is. Wink Very Happy

By the way, interesting explanation about but and ben. I think that their regards are more horizontal than vertical. Does the vertical regards fit more to the hither and tither?

And what about from the bottom to the top? Confused

Beating my brains out I found the solution what your last visit in London had been. You might have visited the big M Cool

What direction are the 70 miles you live away from London. Certainly that must be the north because in every else direction the most possible smile you would see were that from a shark? Shocked Laughing What I have heard is seeing a shark smiling is extremly little healthy. Wink There is an idiom that I remember: You ought not swim with the sharks! Rolling Eyes

For the moment i`ll end up my post! I ca n s e e m y va cu u m c o mm i ...........

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I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum! Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:10 am  I really enjoy an atmosphere at this ESL Forum!
 

Hi and good weekend’s morning for all!

Yes, Michael, you are right and the metaphor is a good guide for me. I’m going marathon and it’s still not even the middle of the way.
And our small and idle talks Smile are very good exercises in runni… ermmm… in proper English, I mean Wink
(besides, you all are highly sympathetic people, indeed).

Quote:
Does the vertical regards fit more to the hither and tither?
No, I suppose this (slightly old fashioned ?) phrase is also for vertical, more than for horizontal - and always for movement (whereas the bottom to the top can be used just to describe a ‘static’ picture. As I think Smile ).

By the way, each language contains lots of rhyming colloquial expressions.Especially Cockney Wink: ‘tit for tat’, ‘lean and lurch’) , as well as ‘trouble and strive’ = wife Very Happy, ‘apple and pears’ = stairs Wink

Quote:
the north
Sure, God’s creatures around me are not sharks. Definitely, most of them are still humans Wink

Yes, I live to the north (in South Herdfordshire, to be more specific).

P.S.
Quote:
I ca n s e e m y va cu u m c o mm i ...........
M9){ 49 i c ?` 95 h 0&/%56 a...............e............................l ....................................---------
Smile Hopefully you are safe and sound after yesterday’s bad weather in German.
I mean, not under the bad weather, not injured by hailing and are enjoying a next really-important-for-you soccer match (now your German life is even more scheduled Smile Smile )

Have a nice day!
Tamara
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