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Thu Jun 01, 2006 20:12 pm New member |
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Hi Tamara,
A very warm welcome to you and many thanks for the positive and encouraging remarks that you have made about the site. Never fear no-one would dream of using words like improper and awful about a contributor's English. From what you have written I can't see that's going to happen in your case anyway. As you can see, there are a number of different forums on the site apart from the tests. Please feel free to comment on what others say or indeed to start a new topic.
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 23:17 pm New member |
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Hi, Alan. Thank you very much for your warm welcome.
At present, I have no definite plans about using the Forum. I just like it... and am going to settle here (if you don’t mind it ), enjoying communicating with Forum people and getting familiar with other facilities of the site. (I have already done more than a half of your Intermediate and Advanced level tests. Just done, hmm… )
To make my situation slightly clearer: at the end of June I am going to take ESOL exams (aiming Level 1 at speaking, listening & writing and Level 2 at reading), because I strongly need to have a nationally (UK) recognised certificate to validate my language skills.
My main troubles are: prepositions, limited vocabulary, tending to put 'formal' words and phrases in informal conversations (as I said above, my English is still passive and rather 'bookish'), and, of course, permanent confusing with phrasal verbs 
And I will be very grateful indeed to everyone who would point out my mistakes…
Regards, Tamara _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water…
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 23:57 pm As is :) |
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Hi Tamara!
I had liked to wellcome you much earlier but I think wellcoming every new member is the privilege of the administrators and moderators of this wonderful site. So I?m happy that Alan did that because now I can do so too.
As I?m an English learner too and also use a rather formal English -particular with phrasal verbs I?m not proficient- and my own range of English is limited, I?m excited what progress you?ll make. Please don?t understand that as a request but more as an interest because, for me, your posts sound quite understandible. Although there might be some difference between written and spoken language. Please follow Alan?s request to use the forums. I think you?ll find it interesting and also improving your skills.
Liked to read from you soon!
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:06 am Grammar |
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Hi Tamara,
If I may, I'll make some publicity and refer you to a considerable amount of material I've written for the site. There you can find notes/material on prepositions and phrasal verbs as well as many other topics: ESL lessons.
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 13:58 pm Grammar |
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Hi, Alan,
Thank you very much for the link (especially for phrasal verb topics). Certainly, I’ll get down to it 
One (fresh) example of my difficulties with phrasal verbs:
Her mother knew a fashionable young dressmaker. Felicity sketched a design, and as the dressmaker gradually put it together, Felicity became carried along by it all.
hmmm...
My Longman Dictionary of Phrasal Verbs (12.000+) tells me: carry along 1. to carry something with one (syn. carry about) 2. to cause (someone) to share one’s feelings, opinions, etc. 3. to encourage (someone), as to keep trying.
Having this explanation, I guess the meaning of the quoted phrase (supposing Case (1)), but I won’t dare to use the verb, when speaking or writing... of course, not... _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water…
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 14:06 pm As is :) |
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Hi, Michael and Fan of Arabian horses  Nice to read (meet!) you and thanks a lot for your kind post.
progress… I can write at Intermediate Level, but it normally takes more time than national tests assume…
Yes, you are right about the difference between spoken and written level (and skills). I have been learning English mostly by using texts and/or relying on 'standard English' speakers (like BBC news. Or Parliamentary debates ) But, of course, in the street I hear quite different English, fairly often 'improper', slangy, wrong grammatically… but it is English, as well. Alive language, not Latin... 
And ‘yes’ again, (a?) spoken English is my weakest point… I generally know English grammar and my (limited) vocabulary nevertheless allows me to express most of what I want to say (constructing sentences, like a diligent pupil ), but… residing in English-speaking country I still think in my language, not in English.
So that, I can hardly talked with people naturally, at a normal speed. Either speak too slowly or make lots of mistakes (if hasten). Sometimes it is not a joke… because if, for example, you just wish to be very polite, but in reality, in some specific situations or contexts, you easily and unwittingly! turned out to be rather sarcastic…
P.S. I haven’t ever had an Arabic horse (and no other ), but a 10-year-old Great Dane is a full-rights member of my family Her name is Greta, she is bigger than me and almost a stone heavier! Kind and friendly creature… as grey as a donkey. And much clever  _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water…
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 14:35 pm Carried along |
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Hi Tamara,
Part of your sentences: | Quote: | | Her mother knew a fashionable young dressmaker. Felicity sketched a design, and as the dressmaker gradually put it together, Felicity became carried along by it all. | is an unusual use to me. Carried along to me literally means be transported but I'm not familiar with the use of it in this sentence. I would say: Felicity became quite carried away by/with it all suggesting she was caught up with the dressmaking and was very enthusiastic about it.
Alan
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Maybe this kind of discussion should be transferred to phrasal verb: to carry along. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Womens' Day |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:12 am Remember vs. remind |
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| Fan of Arabian horses wrote: | | That remembers me a German idiom: |
Hi Michael,
I hope it is OK with you if I point out some grammar issues (to use Alan's new word ) from time to time:
I'm sure you know the difference between remember and remind? You can remember something or somebody. For example: I often remember my childhood days.
Something or somebody can remind you of something: Your story reminds me of a book I once read.
You can also read this thread called remember vs. remind.
Let me know what you think,
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