Issues (but the problem is...!)

[Conchita]

[Yankee]

[Spencer]

Hi Torsten,
I think words have some power all right,but not the same way as you described it.
One uses words to express itself. Your own words have no power on your thinking, you can't force your own personality. For this kind of things you need a professional, a shrink, otherwise you can damage your own mind.
It's like in the Matrix. You want to see the real world, or take the red pill, and melt in the mass. (or blue pill, who knows already, who cares anyway)
I myself like better if there is someone with an attitude of this kind, and if I say something then he tries to get me on a mistake.
Life is so unpredictable, you need someone who helps you prepare for things. If your idea is worth to try, you must be able to convince all the sceptics around you.
I don't need no puppets saying "yes, good idea, let's do it together,as a bunch of sheep"
Better if he says:
" sounds good bro, but what will you do if this, or that comes up?"
And I say: "Then I do this, or that"
or I say :"Darn, I've never thought of THIS man, let's forget about go visiting that slaughterhouse then" :)
If you need an ally then find someone who really thinks that your idea is cool, and you don't have to be a Hannibal Lecter to get them on your side. :)
Spencer

[Torsten]

[Spencer]

Hi Torsten,
I thoroughly agree with all the words you said.
I think there was some misunderstanding between us.
When I said there is some power in the words, but not the way you described it, I meant these:
- If you say something to me, by the information I'll be more experienced, therefore I'm a more experienced peson than I was. I've changed, in other words.
- If you say something to yourself, then you receive no unknown information, you only try to convince yourself.
It's still all right, when it's your best intention to use your own voice as a tool, and you're not forced to "cure" yourself by an other man, of being so negative.
I think if someone ordered me to use your my own voice to make up my mind, and support HIS ideas, then whenever I'd say aloud the allowed words, even if I really meant them, I'd feel like sh*t.
That's why I said it's dangerous.
About skeptics:
The whole conversation started with those guys, who always say: This is the problem with this, and that.
I call them skeptics, (I'm one of them, by the way)
But I might have misread something, and this word doesn't fit the description, then it's my bad, sorry.
Anyway, if you were a boss of these guys, and you were tired to see their so negative faces, I dont think you would come up with "say it after me: THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS, I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT, I CAN DO BETTER"
and all this kind of stupid shrink stuff.
I'd say: "So you have a problem? What is that problem exactly, let's see if we can work it out. That's why we are a TEAM, not a bunch of happy losers" :)
I know I'm getting a bit annoying, but this is my real problem with this whole manager stuff what they teach all over. Whenever I sense this " I don't even know you, but you're my best body, I smile so much it hurts already, (JUST BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT ME TO)" I always feel like a stranger, 'cause I just can't stand it.
What I really mean to say is if there more people like me, (I hope so) then just let's forget these wishes like the world would be better, if people were more positive than they are.
One more thought, and I stop being a pain in the neck, I promise:
Just because someone recognises a problem, it doesn't mean he's desperate from that moment until the problem is solved finally.
He's still could be a happy man in during.
Thanks for letting me share it :) (Slim Shady)
Spencer

[Foah]

Hi there and especially Bloodbrother `Fighting Student? :wink:

Spencer, last night I was to tired to talk to you, sorry! :(

It?s a right issue with the problems, isn?t it? I think Torsten and Amy are right when they refer to the negative influence that the word problem often has. I mean problems mostly means difficulties and difficulties means a lot of costs and times, particularly in the buisiness- and technical world. It also depends on the sight of the single person if he/she has problems or issues, challenges or opportunities or what ever. And problems are often difficult to handle too.

Please let me add an experience that I have from my own profession:
Working as the one constructor at a steel-construction-manufactory one of my challenges had been to design the ideas of technical calculations and the wishes of the customers in drawings. The same time I had to explain the work-plans to the workers. Doing that there often occurs that points in the drawings aren?t easily understandable. There are quite often misunderstandings between construction and manufacturing in general. When I started work as a constructor happend the following: As the occupators of the company were accustomed to do their work without getting explanations they looked at me as a smart one too, who always give instructions without explanations and the workers felt used to speak about problems if there were an indistinctness to make clear. As they spoke about a problem it always had been difficult to explain even the smallest indistinctness because the worker defended always their point of view. It took me some more month to achieve a state of reliance between me and the other occupators. Later they didn?t have any more problems but issues or challenges and weren?t sceptically any more, although they were critically in spite. And that was all right. Can you imagine how the atmosphere between the other occupators and me change. I?m used to say that it was more pleasant to work there at last. :roll:

Michael
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[Spencer]

Hi Michael,
It's all right, my friend, sometimes even identical twins arguing with each other. I'm not a boss of anyone, there was only one year in my life when some people were working for me, but in the contruction there is no time to chating around. I mean, you guys know a lot more about leading a team, I only tell my own reaction if someone decided to try to effect me this way, and I realised his intention. I'd feel like manipulated instead of convinced.
It upsets me, and resultes the opposite than it's supposed to.
Anyway, I've got to go,I'm gonna take my daughter to the zoo,
Take care,
Spencer

[Conchita]

[Spencer]

Hi Conchita,
Actually it wasn't really a spelling mistake I think, because what I wanted to say is: "to have an effect on me this way" I only thought "to effect something" is the right way to say it, ( looks like I was wrong though).
Anyway, whenever you notice any mistake of mine, please forget about being polite,and don't let me get away with it.
Thanks
Spencer

One little thing though:
You wrote: my Magyar friend
In my language, in case of an adjective we don't use capital.
It's not a big deal,but I thought you might be interested.