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#2 (permalink) Mon Jun 05, 2006 23:36 pm Simile into metaphor: |
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. Some metaphors are happier than others. I don't much care for this one. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:58 am Simile into metaphor: |
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Thank you, Mr Micawber.
To understand it simply, could I say that some similes can not be turned into metaphors?
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jun 06, 2006 13:46 pm Simile into metaphor: |
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. Well, I am not sure that it is impossible, Tom, but I think that it takes a poet to do it decently. I cannot offhand see how to change your cheeks/blood one. Perhaps another member is more talented at this. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Jun 06, 2006 13:56 pm Red |
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Hi Tom,
Her cheeks are blood red? It reminds me of a famous ballad :
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| This is a tale of extreme loyalty and self sacrifice. The namesake of the ballad - Sir Patrick Spens - is called upon by the king to sail to Norway and fetch his daughter. |
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The king sits in Dumfermline town. Drinking the blude-red wine: O 'O whare will I get a skeely skipper, To sail this new ship of mine?' |
As this is an old Scottish ballad, you have to realise that blood is written and pronounced as blude, where becomes whare and skilful becomes skeely A skipper is a captain of a ship
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#6 (permalink) Tue Jun 06, 2006 14:40 pm Simile into metaphor: |
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Thank you Mr. Micawber and Sir Alan (for constantly bearing with me )
Last question: Can the given sentence be called a metaphor?
"Her cheeks are blood red."
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#7 (permalink) Thu Jun 08, 2006 18:48 pm Simile into metaphor: |
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Dear Amy
What do you think about my question? Would you discuss the burden of the topic a bit? I would love to know your opinions about the same.
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#8 (permalink) Thu Jun 08, 2006 20:01 pm Simile into metaphor: |
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Hi Tom
I agree with Mr. Micawber's statements about your original question.
Some things just don't work well as metaphors. But I think it's also possible that, given exactly the right context, you can probably say things that would otherwise (out of context) just sound weird.
"Her cheeks are blood red"[/i] isn't a metaphor in my opinion, it's simply a description of the color or her cheeks.
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#9 (permalink) Thu Jun 08, 2006 20:54 pm Blood red |
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Hi Amy,
Surely the simile her cheeks are as red as blood becomes metaphorical when you say her cheeks are blood red? Or am I out of order?
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#11 (permalink) Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:04 am Simile into metaphor: |
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As for me,I don't see any metaphorical sense here.It may be considered rather a simile than a metaphor.By the way,it occurred to me that it would be better to create a columh dealing with stylistics and stylistic analysis What's your opinion?I think it would be very useful! |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:04 am Simile/metaphor |
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Hi,
Without wishing to flog a dead horse (now there's a metaphor) to me a metaphor is a non-literal use of a word and that's how I see this wrteched woman and her cheeks. It's like the old king drinking his blude-red wine.
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#14 (permalink) Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:29 am Metaphor |
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Hi Amy,
Now that's a metaphor to die for! Just think of the learning opportunities the whole of Blackadder would provide. Now I have a plan. A cunning plan .....
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#15 (permalink) Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:49 am Simile into metaphor: |
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Hi Amy and Alan
So "I could not see the wood for trees."
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