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 #17 (permalink) Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:21 pm I often see sentences begin with "That said" |
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I don't find either of 2s to be natural at all.
They were popular. *That said, they made a lot of money? That doesn't work. You could say, "Given that, it's not surprising they made a lot of money."
*We're in the rainy season. That said, it's been raining. That doesn't work either.
I've never used "That said" to mean "Therefore, it's not surprising that..."
Perhaps others have, but I would always use it to bring up an argument or point or fact that seems contrary to what was just said. |
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Barb_D
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| #18 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 0:38 am I often see sentences begin with "That said" |
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Barb_D wrote
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| I don't find either of 2s to be natural at all. |
There were three sentenses. By "either of 2s" do you mean "either of the second two sentences"? If so I agree entirely.
Here are the sentences
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1) The Beatles were immensely popular. That said, they did not make much money from the sales of their records.
2) The Beatles were immensely popular. That said, they made a great deal of money on the sales of their records.
3) The Beatles were immensely popular. That said, they came from the UK. |
And I wrote, saying that I thought 2 & 3 are unnatural.
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| I think that 1 is natural, 2 is unnatural and 3 is only natural if coming from the UK usually predisposes a lack of popularity. |
You wrote
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| *We're in the rainy season. That said, it's been raining. That doesn't work either. |
With which again I agree entirely. I wrote
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1) We are in the middle of the rainy season. That said, there has been surprsingly little rain this year.
2) We are in the middle of the rainy season. That said, it has been raining every day.
(1) Is natural, but (2) is not natural since the second sentenece does not contradict the first sentence. |
Barb_D wrote
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| Perhaps others have, but I would always use it to bring up an argument or point or fact that seems contrary to what was just said. |
Exactly. We agree entirely which is nice because, the esteemed co-founder, Alan, thinks otherwise as mentioned on this thread.
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic2138.html |
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