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I mean to say/ ask Fri Jun 09, 2006 22:34 pm  I mean to say/ ask
 

Hello everybody

Could you please tell me how to use the following expressions in sentences? Very Happy

I mean to say
I mean to ask


Could they end with a question mark? Why? Please see below.Do they take a comma or quotation marks? For example,are my examples correct? What about the difference between the third and fourth sentences?)

1- I mean to say, where were you?
2- I mean to ask, if you are interested in the deal?
3 - I meant to say, would you go to the party.
4-I meant to say if you would go to the party?

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I mean to say/ ask Fri Jun 09, 2006 23:06 pm  I mean to say/ ask
 

Hi Tom

Do you want to use "mean" with a meaning similar to "intend"?

Or are all of your sentences supposed to clarify something previously said?

What context do you have in mind?

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I mean to say/ ask Fri Jun 09, 2006 23:09 pm  I mean to say/ ask
 

Dear Amy

" To clarify the previous statement"

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I mean to say/ ask Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:21 am  I mean to say/ ask
 

Dear Amy

Where are you? Very Happy

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Crystal ball Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:48 am  Crystal ball
 

Hi Tom

I'm here, but I've been hoping that somebody else would answer. Cool

You often ask questions about sentences that have no context whatsoever and if my crystal ball isn't working, it's almost impossible to answer some of your questions without writing a novel. Wink

The sentences feel wrong to me and raise a lot of additional questions in my mind. For example, the word "would": Did you mean "would like" or are you using the reported speech form of "will"? If the direct speech was "will", that raises the question as to why you chose the word "will" instead of one of the more likely future forms. Do you want to make quotes rather than reported speech? Using the word "ask/asked" is preferable when quoting/reporting a question. But if you simply want to repeat a word or part of a question sentence, then "say" would be OK.

That said, here is what my crystal ball came up with: Wink

1- I mean to say, where were you?
If you say "I mean to say", I would normally understand "I intend to say" and that indicates that you want to say something in the future:
I mean to say something (to him) about the situation soon.

If I wanted to clarify something directly (i.e. in the present), as you said you wanted to do, then possibly like this:
What I mean to say is (that) I want to know where you were.

2- I mean to ask, if you are interested in the deal?
Here again, "I mean to ask" sounds like "I intend to ask" and it doesn't make much sense to tell someone about this future question when you're already talking to the person. If you simply want to clarify, I'd write it like this:
What I mean to ask is whether you are interested in the deal (or not).

3 - I meant to say, would you go to the party.
If you first said "Should you go to the party?" and then had to clarify because you said the word "should" instead of "would", then I would say:
I meant to say, "Would you go to the party". (i.e., with clear spoken stress on the word "would".)

4-I meant to say if you would go to the party?
In nearly all circumstances this would be an incorrect sentence. The only possibility as a "correct" sentence that I can think of would be if you simply want to repeat part of a sentence in order to clarify just that piece of the sentence. For example:
I meant to say (that he asked) "if you would go to the party".

"I meant to ask" is often used in a situation where you had intended to ask something in the past but didn't:
I meant to ask them if they were coming to the party (but I forgot).

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