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Phrase 'however many times' - is grammatically correct?



 
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Phrase 'however many times' - is grammatically correct? #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 15, 2006 20:21 pm   Phrase 'however many times' - is grammatically correct?
 

Hi,

I would like to know if the phrase however many times is grammatically correct? Could we use it in everyday conversation? Or no matter how many times could be prefered?

1- However many times you see the movie, you will enjoy it.
2- No matter how many times you see the movie,...

1- However many times you call him, he will come.

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Phrase: However many times: #2 (permalink) Thu Jun 15, 2006 21:31 pm   Phrase: However many times:
 

Hi Tom

I'd say that you can use either version:
1- However many times you see the movie, you will enjoy it.
2- No matter how many times you see the movie, you will enjoy it.

Yes, you can use "however many" in everyday conversation.

But this sentence sounds very strange (and doesn't make sense to me):
1- However many times you call him, he will come.

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Phrase: However many times: #3 (permalink) Thu Jun 15, 2006 21:37 pm   Phrase: However many times:
 

Amy, this sentence is used for a faithful friend who is always there whenever you need (call) him.

1- However many times you call me, I will be with you.

Does it still sound strange? If so, at least let me know, please. (I will go for some other structure :D )

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Phrase: However many times: #4 (permalink) Thu Jun 15, 2006 21:49 pm   Phrase: However many times:
 

Yes, it still sounds strange.

Going back to your first sentence, the implication is:

However many times you see the movie, you will enjoy it every time.

If you want to give the same sort of meaning to this sentence:
However many times you call him, he will come.
Then, I would add the word "always":
However many times you call him, he will always come.

That sentence doesn't work well without the a little more clarification.

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How to use " no matter how" #5 (permalink) Fri Jan 08, 2010 17:51 pm   How to use " no matter how"
 

when I use phrase no matter how , I don't know does this phrase must be followed by adj (no matter how hard I try...)
or it can be followed by a sentence ( no matter how I try..)
Thank you !
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How to use " no matter how" #6 (permalink) Fri Jan 08, 2010 18:16 pm   How to use " no matter how"
 

Orchidngo wrote:
when I use phrase no matter how , I don't know does this phrase must be followed by adj (no matter how hard I try...)
or it can be followed by a sentence ( no matter how I try..)
Thank you !


I think the phrase in question is "no matter" not "now matter how". "no matter" means: regardless of.
e.g. "Yet there isn't a train I wouldn't take,/No matter where it's going" (Edna St. Vincent Millay).

"no matter" could also mean: without considering
e.g. He will do anything, no matter how unfair, to win an election.
In this context, it's usually followed by how, as in the example, or by who, what, or which: He'll say what he thinks, no matter who you are. She goes out running no matter what the weather is like.

OR it could mean (spoken): it is not important
e.g. You never thought about it, did you? Well, no matter.

So, to answer your question: "how" can be followed by and adjective as in "how hard" or by a pronoun as in "how I" but there's a difference in meaning between "how hard I try" and "how I try".
"no matter how hard I try" implies that you try hard.
"no matter how I try" implies that you try but it's not specified if you try hard or not.

I hope this answers your question.

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How to use " no matter how" #7 (permalink) Sat Jan 09, 2010 17:02 pm   How to use " no matter how"
 

Thank you very much. Now I understand it clearly.
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