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#2 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:55 am Will or would? |
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My son would never think of leaving me and going away.
The use of 'would' in your sentence suggests a supposition: He would never think of leaving me (...) if he had to decide someday.
Whereas 'my son will never think of leaving me' (...) is a categorical (definite) statement. |
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Conchita Language Coach

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#3 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:04 pm Why "he would"? Why not "he will"? |
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Thank you alot, Conchita
So considering the second part understood, we may use would?
Please see below.
Conchita-"Hello, Tom.Will you come on the forum tomorrow?"
Tom-" Yes, I would (if I could).
So I would does not sound ugly because if I could is understood?
Please tell me in detail
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Tom I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:23 pm Why "he would"? Why not "he will"? |
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No, Tom!
You are changing gears in mid-conversation again. :cry: With a short form response to a "will question", ONLY will is understood (and is repeated if you give a "short form" answer).
If you decide to use would in your response, then you need to write or say more.
Amy _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#5 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:26 pm Will or would? |
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Sorry, I didn't understand yet, can 'would' be used (without if-clause) in the context, where it sounds as a subjective opinion / private belief?
(For example, if the lady is told that someone else did some shabby act, could she just say: My son would never do so! (referring to the fiture, but within the conditional situation) ? _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:54 pm Will or would? |
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| Tamara wrote: |
Sorry, I didn't understand yet, can 'would' be used (without if-clause) in the context, where it sounds as a subjective opinion / private belief?
(For example, if the lady is told that someone else did some shabby act, could she just say: My son would never do so! (referring to the fiture, but within the conditional situation) ? |
Yes, Tamara, 'would' can be used without the 'if' clause.
My son would never do so! is a correct sentence. |
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Conchita Language Coach

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#7 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 16:23 pm Why "he would"? Why not "he will"? |
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Hi Tamara
I agree with what Conchita has written. The "If clause" is often clearly understood and sentences are very often used that way.
Tom's example was:
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Conchita-"Hello, Tom.Will you come on the forum tomorrow?"
Tom-" Yes, I would (if I could). |
This example just happens to be a particularly bad one since he has used a "direct will question" and a "standard" type of short form response. In my opinion, it would be extremely unlikely to hear Tom's example in a real life situation from a native speaker.
The very least that would have to happen in Tom's example (to make it a realistic possiblity) would be, for example:
"Well, I would ..."
i.e., Get rid of the word "yes" because you are not actually saying "yes". Technically speaking, "I would (if I could)" is closer in meaning to "no" in the given example.
As I said, I agree with Conchita: There are plenty of times where the "If" clause is understood. The example with "My son would never..." was good, but the "Yes, I would" example is not.
Amy _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#8 (permalink) Tue Jun 20, 2006 21:17 pm Why "he would"? Why not "he will"? |
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Amy, Conchita, thank you for the explanations. Now I’ve got it.
Tamara _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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