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#2 (permalink) Fri Jun 23, 2006 14:08 pm Use of collocation grids |
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| Cyborg wrote: |
| I found that it is not correct to say wealthy existence or wealthy country. |
Hello, Cyborg
This is the case of collocations.Collocation is the way words combine in a language to produce natural-sounding speech and writing. Please see below:
1- Strong tea (corret) but Mighty tea (incorrect)
2- Weak tea (correct) but Feeble tea (incorrect)
You may use the adjective affluent or rich with country but not wealthy.
I hope this helps.
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#3 (permalink) Fri Jun 23, 2006 14:32 pm Wealthy |
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Sorry Tom,
Wealthy country is fine
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#4 (permalink) Fri Jun 23, 2006 14:38 pm Use of collocation grids |
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. Collocations are probabilities, Cyborg, they are not legislated. Although rich country is more likely than wealthy country, I suspect that both are used with some frequency. Let's check with Ms Google, shall we?--
781,000 English pages for "rich country" 165,000 English pages for "rich nation" 140,000 English pages for "wealthy country" 84,300 English pages for "wealthy nation" 27,900 English pages for "affluent country". 13,800 English pages for "affluent nation".
As you can see, all these collocations are in use, and frequency is on a gradient. There are no rules about, for instance, which adjectives can be used with which nouns; people simply tend to hear them one way and repeat them-- it makes communication quicker when we speak in chunks rather than single words. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:07 pm Use of collocation grids |
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I see what you mean, but what is the point of using a book that misleads you by saying that a wealthy country is not a good collocation? Perhaps my initial approach was erroneous, as I wanted to have a guide that would help me understand the intricacies of using collocations and that would be 100% right.
By the way, do you know any advanced book about collocations, one that would make my English sound natural? |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Jun 23, 2006 23:38 pm Use of collocation grids |
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. Collocations are legion, and books are only human. You must take the author's opinion-- if one is offered-- with a grain of salt. I have seen no 'perfect' collocation book, but any one that is based on a large authentic corpus and lists only likelihoods without making strict statements would be good. I myself have the BBI Dictionary of English Word Combinations near at hand, but do not swear by it.
There is no '100% right'. Word phrases come and go, and speakers frequently amend them to create an effect of language creativity for purposes of humour or art or shock value. Collocation is a slippery business at best, and the only way through the muddle is experience, to my mind. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#7 (permalink) Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:26 am Use of collocation grids |
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| Thank you for you comment. I will bear it in mind, |
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#8 (permalink) Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:41 am Use of collocation grids |
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| Mr.Micawber wrote: |
| You must take the author's opinion-- if one is offered-- with a grain of salt. |
Dear Mr.Micawber
Could you please shed some light on it?
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