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#2 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:38 am Reflexive pronouns |
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Hi,
'I' would be followed by 'myself' as 'you -yourself' 'he himself' and so on.
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Alan Co-founder

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#3 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:44 am Reflexive pronouns |
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By the way, the right answer implies knowing The legend of Icarus. _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#4 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:47 am Reflexive pronouns |
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Not really, Tamara-- we could put any name in the sentence and it would still require the same answer:
George/Lance/ Evel Knievel said he would try and he promised his father: 'I will not injure myself'. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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Mister Micawber Language Coach
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#5 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 13:26 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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In my view, Mister Micawber, the right answer still depends on the particular situation.
I (as an ESL learner who is unfamiliar with the legend :)) might think, for example, that Icarus is a young boy being devoted by karate who is asked by his father to show him some… newly learned exercises, by using his father’s belly (that is a far cry from (a?) 'flat stomach', in fact :) ) And that boy Icarus is just going to do a try. :)
Wouldn’t ‘yourself’ be the right answer in this case? :) _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 13:29 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Hi Tamara, you can either insure yourself or somebody else. Take a look at these examples:
I will not injure myself. I will not injure you. You will not injure yourself. You will not injure yourselves.
In all of these cases it's clear who is the subject and who the object. If you start your sentence with "I" as the subject, you can either use the object you or the reflexive pronoun myself.
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Torsten Learning Coach

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#7 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 13:31 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Ok. Thanks. _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#8 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 13:33 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Thanks for pointing out that typo, it would have worked with insure too:-)
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Torsten Learning Coach

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#9 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 13:40 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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:)
Torsten wrote: | it would have worked with insure too:-) |
http://www.lifestylemortgage.co.uk/Insurance.htm (find 'insure ourselves' )
Why can't I say (from the first person): I will not insure ourselves? :shock: (for example, my child AND myself or my whole family) _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#10 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 14:26 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Hi Tamara,
The name 'reflexive' wouldn't accept that. 'I' can't be reflected by 'ourselves'.
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Alan Co-founder

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#11 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 14:54 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Tamara, you could say 'I will (not) insure us', 'I'll make us some supper' or 'I'll buy us a round', for example. |
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Conchita Language Coach

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#12 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 15:13 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Alan wrote: | 'I' can't be reflected by 'ourselves'. |
"We, Icarus I, will not injure ourselves." :lol: :)
Thanks, indeed.
Sometimes we make wonderful discoveries (for ourselves :) ) even at Elementary level. :)
TaMarA & tAmArA, Siamese twins with two our silly, born injured, heads. :) _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#13 (permalink) Thu Nov 02, 2006 15:31 pm Reflexive pronouns |
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Tamara wrote: | "We, Icarus I, will not injure ourselves." :lol: :) |
That brings to mind the patronising use of 'we' favoured by nurses, doctors or the royalty, for example:
How are we this morning? Have we moved our bowels today? We shall be amused. |
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Conchita Language Coach

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#14 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:55 am Pronouns |
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Hello, Would you please tell me how to use pronouns (myself......; other.....) in English ? Thank you. |
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#15 (permalink) Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:35 am Reflexive pronouns |
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What do your dots ('......') mean? _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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Mister Micawber Language Coach
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English countable and uncountable nouns | Blankly VERSUS actually |