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Complicated Question #1 (permalink) Wed Jul 06, 2016 20:37 pm   Complicated Question
 

1. Iran reverse auctions
2. Iran government
3. Iran's reverse auctions
4. Iran's government (correct)
5. Iranian reverse auction (correct)
6. Iranian government (correct)

Hello,
I have asked this question in 3 different language forums but the answers that native English speakers give me differ and are not the same. So, that's why I am confused.

Some say 1 is correct and some say it's incorrect.
Some say 2 is correct and some say it's incorrect.
Some say 3 is correct and some say it's incorrect.

I am confused.

Would you please be kind enough to tell me what you think about 1, 2 and 3?

Thank you.
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Complicated Question #2 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 0:12 am   Complicated Question
 

The question is without context and that is the only thing that makes it complicated. These are just phrases, not even sentences.

2. is wrong. It would be 'Iranian Government', 'Government of Iran' or 'Iran's Government'. You would not say 'Britain Government' or 'America Government'.
1. is wrong for a similar reason.
Whether 3 is wrong or not depends on context.
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Re: Complicated Question #3 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:14 am   Re: Complicated Question
 

Quote:
1. Iran reverse auctions.
This is a correct sentence since we can treat 'Iran' as a plural noun and 'reverse' as a plural verb.
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Complicated Question #4 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:30 am   Complicated Question
 

You are clouding the issue in your desperate measures to prove me wrong, as from the other phrases it is obvious that it is not the intention to use 'reverse' as a verb here, but even if you were to do it would be incorrect. 'Iran' would not be a plural noun.
Iran reverses (its) auctions.
Iranians/Iranian people reverse (their) auctions.
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Complicated Question #5 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:14 am   Complicated Question
 

That's a misread! In the field of Sports we often use a 'team' or a 'country' as plural. So I suggested a possibility though I knew that the word 'reverse' was used as an adjective in the given question. A country cannot reverse the auctions of others. It's the government not people. Sentences like 'Iran welcome friendly ties with India' and 'Iran beat India in exports' and 'Iran impose sanctions on some countries' are acceptable. The actual question/complication looks like whether Iran, Iran's and Iranian are interchangeable, though.
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Complicated Question #6 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:47 pm   Complicated Question
 

Please stop misleading learners with such strange views. The examples you cite are not correct.
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Complicated Question #7 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 13:09 pm   Complicated Question
 

Please stop to confirm from other native speakers whether my examples are correct. You can also see that nobody else has raised their eyebrows at them yet. Let's wait for other comments.
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Complicated Question #8 (permalink) Thu Jul 07, 2016 15:55 pm   Complicated Question
 

You don't need anyone to 'raise their eyebrows' any more than I need further confirmation.

Iran welcomes a new era.
Iranians welcome a new era.
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