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has or have #1 (permalink) Sat Nov 04, 2017 21:17 pm   has or have
 

Some of the books that Stephen ______ written include Cities, Floating Cities and Stephen Wiltshire's American Dream.

Should one use "has" or "have" here?

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Re: has or have #2 (permalink) Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:47 pm   Re: has or have
 

It is has as it goes with Stephen has written ....
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has or have #3 (permalink) Mon Nov 06, 2017 20:29 pm   has or have
 

Hello Anglophile, if it is all about British English grammar, can I say "Steven has written" is a defying relative clause which modifies "Some of the books" so "Some of the books that Stephen has written" could be the compound subject of the whole sentence. "Combine" could be the predicate. The rest could be the object.
Can I see it this way?

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has or have #4 (permalink) Mon Nov 06, 2017 21:05 pm   has or have
 

I think you are correct E2e4, except the defining relative clause includes "that". And I would not use "compound subject", as that would be two or more subjects. I was not aware until I looked it up, but the term here is "complex subject." http://english.ucalgary.ca/grammar/course/sentence/2_1b.htm
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has or have #5 (permalink) Mon Nov 06, 2017 22:35 pm   has or have
 

Luschen, thank you for such useful post.
In addition, I wonder if the genuine sentence can be written without "that", as below
2) Some of the books Stephen has written include Cities, Floating Cities and Stephen Wiltshire's American Dream.

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has or have #6 (permalink) Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:31 am   has or have
 

I couldn't quite understand what you meant. But if you analyze the sentence you will have these clauses:

1. Some of the books include Cities, Floating Cities and Stephen Wiltshire's American Dream. (Main clause)

2. that Stephen has written (Dependent clause)
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has or have #7 (permalink) Tue Nov 07, 2017 15:17 pm   has or have
 

E2e4 wrote:
In addition, I wonder if the genuine sentence can be written without "that", as below
2) Some of the books Stephen has written include Cities, Floating Cities and Stephen Wiltshire's American Dream.

Yes, that is correct. You can leave out the relative pronoun as long as it is not the subject of the relative clause.

"Some of the books that Stephen has written include ..." Ok to drop "that".

"Some of the books that were written include ..." Must keep "that".
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