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#2 (permalink) Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:23 am Can I say "the cows were all milked dry or out"? |
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Hi Danial
I'm not a specialist on cows, but it seems to me that 'milk out' and 'milk dry' would have similar meanings when referring to milking a cow.
But only 'milk dry' would be used figuratively (i.e. referring to something other than a cow).
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#3 (permalink) Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:07 am Can I say "the cows were all milked dry or out"? |
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Hi,
'Milked out' sounds odd to me and almost suggests that the poor cows had overdosed on milk.
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#4 (permalink) Sat Dec 23, 2006 23:39 pm Can I say "the cows were all milked dry or out"? |
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Alan wrote: | Hi,
'Milked out' sounds odd to me and almost suggests that the poor cows had overdosed on milk.
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#5 (permalink) Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:52 am Can I say "the cows were all milked dry or out"? |
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. I would have thought that 'dry' was the more idiomatic...and indeed it is, except for cows. Dairy websites seem to use 'out' more frequently:
Typically applying the [milking machine] unit to a cow with full letdown allows maximum flow rates to be achieved immediately and milk-out will be rapid.
The Dairymaster milkers stay on and milk the cows out well.
Do not use a cow milking machine. They do not give good service, and in time injure the cow, besides causing them to run dry quicker.
Most cows will milk out in 5 to 7 minutes.
Some cows are slow to milk out. This may occur because they produce more milk than can be removed in 5 minutes, even with maximal removal efficiency. Or, cows may have structural problems with the teat end or inside the udder that makes them milk out slowly.
The animal was milked dry and then fifteen minutes later milked dry again. ... Each was milked dry at 9 a.m. and again at 4 p.m.; at 6 p.m
There is also 'over-milk':
Most people milking cows tend to over-milk the udder.
While it does result in removal of more milk from the quarters, it also results in overmilking and more stress on the gland.
. Ms Google makes it roughly a toss up:
18,800 English pages for "milked dry" 30,000 English pages for "milked out"
You'll notice that the first page of the former is almost all idiomatic, while the first page of the latter is almost all dairy-oriented. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:33 am Can I say "the cows were all milked dry or out"? |
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thank all of you for the detailed information! |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Jan 03, 2007 15:38 pm Can I say "the cows were all milked dry or out"? |
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"milked dry" is more common... I can't say I've ever heard the phrase "milked out".
"Milked dry" is also used figuratively, as others (Yankee first) have already said.
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