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#2 (permalink) Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:42 am difference between awake and wake |
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Hi Oxana, 'Awake' is normally used as an adjective. In literature, the term, as a verb, is used. However, in everyday English, it is not normally used as a verb. For example, a character in a book might say "I awoke to the sound of music." In everyday English, however, "I woke up to the sound of music' is the more accepted phrase. I hope this helps. Linda _________________ One Way of Learning English Grammar
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#3 (permalink) Mon Aug 25, 2008 22:14 pm difference between awake and wake |
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I didn't understand the difference between awake and wake? Can someone tell it in the other way? Also, I wanted to ask, why couldn't we say "get up from the bed" in this case? Thank you in advance. |
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#4 (permalink) Mon Aug 25, 2008 23:25 pm difference between awake and wake |
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"Awake" is usually used as an adjective "Wake" is a verb We don't use "the bed" when we are referring to our own bed. It isn't necessary so we don't use "the bed" in this case. It is natural and common to use "I got up at...." or "I woke up at...." _________________ One Way of Learning English Grammar
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#5 (permalink) Mon Aug 25, 2008 23:50 pm difference between awake and wake |
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I'm not sure any of those responses could be fairly described as a "common English error". A native speaker might use any of them.
Trollope for instance says:
1. I am so ill that I am quite unable to leave my bed.
while Wilkie Collins has:
2. The next half hour, at most, would decide the question of whether he would, or would not, get up from his bed, and leave the room.
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#6 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 0:00 am difference between awake and wake |
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#7 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 0:03 am difference between awake and wake |
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Really? I would never say to anyone that "I left my bed" this morning. Nor would I say that "I got up from my bed at 6 am" or "I awoke at 6 am." They all sound terribly unnatural. I have never heard anyone say any of one of those choices in Canada or America - not ever. _________________ One Way of Learning English Grammar
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#8 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 0:25 am difference between awake and wake |
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Hello Linda,
"I awoke at 6" sounds fine to me. The other two are probably not that common; but the Daily Telegraph online has:
1. I got up from my bed and stood at the window.
which sounds natural to me; while the Times has:
2. Thompson, it is said, was the cantankerous autocrat that every club needs, so dedicated that he would leave his bed in dead of night to heave the covers on if he heard rain.
I don't think any of those phrases can be described as "errors", as reputable writers (e.g. Trollope and Collins) use them. It's true that B is probably the commonest option, of course.
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#9 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:01 am Common errors in everyday speech |
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Hi Mr. P, As I stated at the beginning of this thread: "Hi Oxana, 'Awake' is normally used as an adjective. In literature, the term, as a verb, is used. However, in everyday English, it is not normally used as a verb. For example, a character in a book might say "I awoke to the sound of music." In everyday English, however, "I woke up to the sound of music' is the more accepted phrase. I hope this helps. Linda"
I already stated that some words and terms that are used (and have been used) in literature are not normally used in everyday speech - as I'm sure you can acknowledge and appreciate (you can probably find more examples of those situations as well.) This test is not looking for the right answer to literature examples and scenarios - I'm sure it's designed to test students' knowledge about everyday speech so that they can hone in on their speaking abilities - that's very important for ESL learners. The "Times," Trollope and Collins come later. By the way, is "commonest" a word? Take care _________________ One Way of Learning English Grammar
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#10 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:27 am difference between awake and wake |
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Hi Linda
I can see your point, but I can also see MrP's point.
If I were asked to choose the most commonly used expression, I'd go for option (b) hands down. However, this test does not ask test-takers to choose the most commonly used expression. Instead, it is categorized as a test with "common English errors".
Option (a) isn't incorrect; it would simply be a less commonly used expression, and also tends to sound more formal than (b).
Option (c) also isn't incorrect; it's just much more common to omit 'from my bed'.
Option (d) also isn't incorrect; again, it would not be the most commonly used option, however there are a few examples of 'leave my bed' in the American corpus, as well as google-able examples (from what appears to be both British and American native speakers) on the Internet. For example: - Although I would always leave my bed at the crack of dawn, all I ever brought home was the worry about blue books.
In short, I agree that (b) would be the right choice if the test asked for the most common or frequent usage. And I agree that it is desirable to learn commonly used expressions. But I don't agree that the other options should be labeled as "errors", and also don't think you can categorize them as being strictly literary.
Linda wrote: | By the way, is "commonest" a word? |
I can answer that: Yes, it is. Not only is commonest a word, but it is also correct and in use. It is also correct to say most common. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#11 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:56 am difference between awake and wake |
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Yankee wrote: | Not only is commonest a word, but it is also correct and in use. It is also correct to say most common. . |
A fair observation, Amy :D Merriam-Webster supports your and Mr.P's choice http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/commonest |
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#13 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 22:13 pm difference between awake and wake |
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Hello Linda,
As Amy says, the problem here is that three correct and grammatical phrases are classified as "common errors". This is likely to mislead students; especially if they discover (in another test) that it's normal to say:
1. During her illness she was so languid she could not leave her bed.
In fact, if frequency is the criterion, the awkward "in the morning every day" might be worth reconsidering: the usual phrase is "every morning".
(I note that the rest of the tests in that section do include grammatical errors, by the way; so this is something of an anomaly.)
On the question of "commonest": yes, it's a valid word. It can be found on the OUP website, in the OED, and in explanatory notes in the American Heritage Dictionary (e.g. "From such uses vulgar has continued to go downhill, and at present crudely indecent is among the commonest senses of the word"); not to mention the venerable precincts of English Test itself, in posts by Mister M and Alan.
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#14 (permalink) Tue Aug 26, 2008 22:27 pm difference between awake and wake |
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Hi Mr.P, As soon as I submitted the post, I realized that it is a word. The fact that "most common" also exists threw me off for a minute. As far as the whole "bed" thing, I suppose we can change the test title to "Common Expressions and Errors" or something to that effect. _________________ One Way of Learning English Grammar
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#15 (permalink) Tue Mar 29, 2011 18:08 pm difference between awake and wake |
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Why I can't use ''get up from my bed'' ? |
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