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#2 (permalink) Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:58 am See/saw |
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Saw is the Past Simple and have seen is the Present Perfect. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Present Simple |
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Alan Co-founder

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#3 (permalink) Fri Jul 01, 2005 18:07 pm Never seen |
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But this sentence is in Present Perfect! |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Jul 01, 2005 18:31 pm Have seen |
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Exactly!! SEEN is the past participle. _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Progressive Forms |
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Alan Co-founder

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#5 (permalink) Thu Sep 11, 2008 21:14 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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It's correct said:
I never saw her before |
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Al New Member
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Torsten Learning Coach

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#7 (permalink) Sat Nov 01, 2008 13:45 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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and if I said "have" that mean I should use "seen"? |
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Kory I'm new here and I like it ;-)

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#8 (permalink) Sat Nov 01, 2008 16:02 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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. Right, Kory. Because the word "have" is in the sentence, the only grammatically correct choice is "seen". . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#9 (permalink) Thu Feb 26, 2009 19:49 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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Hello.. I can't say "see" because it's present simple? And I should use "seen" because in this question we are using the present perfect? |
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Tatiana23 New Member
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#10 (permalink) Fri Apr 02, 2010 15:32 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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I never saw her before. I have never saw her before.
What's the difference in these two sentences?
I also selected 'seen' as answer because 'have' is there in the question "I have never .... her before."
Torsten sir please explain. This is my forth post and still waiting for reply. |
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Hellofriend I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#11 (permalink) Fri Apr 02, 2010 15:49 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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Sorry for the disturbance. I think both expressions are the same. The past simple is used by the Americans rather than the English. In other words, the Americans use past simple rather than present perfect to express that action. _________________ Let my English be checked! |
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Wanderer I'm here quite often ;-)

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#12 (permalink) Fri Apr 02, 2010 16:39 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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Hello Wanderer,
Thx for your reply. But still little confusion is there if 'have' is there in sentence we should use 'saw' or 'seen'. " I have never saw her before." "I have never seen her before." Which one is not correct and if both are correct than saw and seen both are correct answers? |
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Hellofriend I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#13 (permalink) Fri Apr 02, 2010 17:12 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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I never saw her before -> Past Simple (And I haven't seen her yet) I have never seen her before -> present perfect (Untill now) |
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Nevermind You can meet me at english-test.net
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#14 (permalink) Fri Apr 02, 2010 18:38 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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Of course you must use seen as a past participle after have as it's required. _________________ Let my English be checked! |
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Wanderer I'm here quite often ;-)

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#15 (permalink) Sun Apr 04, 2010 18:42 pm Is 'never seen' present perfect? |
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Hi,
Remember 'I have never seen'.
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Passive Voice |
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Alan Co-founder

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diffence between finish up and finish off | Idiom: to tear one's hair out |