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#2 (permalink) Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:55 am past perfect vs. simple past |
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. Simply speaking, use present perfect (have done) when the action or the effect of the action continues from the past up to the present time. Use past perfect (had done) when the action or the effect of the action continued from the farther past to the past moment of the other verb. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Sun Feb 24, 2008 14:23 pm past perfect vs. simple past |
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It would be typical to use the simple past tense after 'by the time'. The use of the past perfect (had reached) strikes me a quite odd here.
By the time I reached the bottom of the mountain, I felt extremely tired.
If you wanted to indicate that a feeling of tiredness came only after you reached the bottom of the mountain, then it would be better to use the word 'after' rather than 'by the time'.
After I had reached the bottom of the mountain, I felt extremely tired. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Jun 03, 2011 0:09 am past perfect vs. simple past |
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Or "By the time I reached the bottom of the mountain, I had felt extremely tired." |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Jun 03, 2011 0:14 am past perfect vs. simple past |
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That sounds even more odd! _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
Terry Pratchett |
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