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#2 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:50 am starting |
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Alan, what is it you want from us regarding this thread? |
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#3 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:12 am starting |
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. Have you ever started a thread and then wished you hadn't, Alan? . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:36 am starting |
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But what's the thread about, Mr M? Is it meant to get us to read Alan's article on start and begin? |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:14 am starting |
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I reckon that Alan wanted to urge learners to read the article. I think it is a very wholesome thing to brush up on the difference between the two verbs. |
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#6 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:17 am starting |
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I agree, but is it OK to feed back on the article or not? |
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#7 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:19 am starting |
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Hi LS,
Many thanks for your comments. Positive ones are always welcome!
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#8 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:24 am starting |
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How about ones which intend to explore your thoughts on those words? |
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#9 (permalink) Thu Sep 04, 2008 19:09 pm starting |
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Why not change your strategy for once, Molly. Stop asking provocative questions and deliver input. This is the 'English Vocabulary, Grammar and Idioms' section, and people here want to learn more about the English language. Help, don't distract. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:51 am starting |
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I personally liked the article and I do think it's helpful. Thank you, Alan. The problem for Russian speakers is that in Russian we have just one word to express the idea. So it's good to hear about the differences. Makes my life easier :) |
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#11 (permalink) Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:35 am Dougts about start and begin |
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Hi Torsten,
As you suggest me I listened and read the story about start and begin, It is very interesting and I tried to understand it because I want to undertand about this subject but I confess to you that this is a little complicated, I realized that we use "start" everytime that something is dome for the first time, and "begin" when we want to say that something is being created. Is it true?
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#12 (permalink) Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:39 am Starting |
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Hi Matias,
I think you have made an interesting point about the difference in the use of 'start' and 'begin'. The other point is that 'start' has a sense of urgency in its use. 'Begin' has the sense of doing something for the first time but without that idea of being sudden. Perhaps I can illustrate this with these two sentences:
Without any warning the madman picked up the gun and started firing/started to fire it in all directions.
If you listen every day to a language you are learning, you begin to understand more and more.
Hope that helps a little,
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#13 (permalink) Sun Oct 26, 2008 16:06 pm Thanks |
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Alan,
Thanks for your tip.
Matias |
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#14 (permalink) Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:22 am Starting |
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Hi!
I heard the article on Begin/Start.It was great.This teaching method involves learners learning better a subject they have already read about.
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#15 (permalink) Tue Jan 13, 2009 20:11 pm Starting |
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Hi Torsten.I can't make any difference between start and begin and end and finish.I read the both article again and again , but I can't understand anything!It's terrible! |
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