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#2 (permalink) Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:19 am Subject object |
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Hi,
Simply put, the subject is usually the word that does something and the object is the word receiving what is done. In the sentence:
Quote: | This is the teacher ......... told me my son has been misbehaving in class. |
teacher is the subject, told is the verb and the word receiving what is done/told is me, which is the object. In this sntence the missing pronoun is who.
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#4 (permalink) Tue Oct 16, 2012 17:41 pm Object vs. subject |
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Untaught1988 wrote: | Hi Alan, Why didn't you use "the definite article" before "class"? |
This is the teacher who told me my son has been misbehaving in class.
Yes, the 'the' is necessary, as the speaker means the class of the teacher.
However, when you analyse the sentence and put it in the direct speech, you get
This is the teacher. He told me, "Your son has been misbehaving in the class"
Now, when you combine them, you get
This is the teacher who told me, "Your son has been misbehaving in the class."
Further, when you report it, you get
This is the teacher who told me that my son had been misbehaving in the class.
(This is, usually, the version in the reported or indirect speech).
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#5 (permalink) Tue Oct 16, 2012 19:15 pm Object vs. subject |
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Sorry, you are mistaken.
The 'the' is not necessary, as can be seen from the original. 'Class' is used there as a general term for an organised time when students meet their teacher.
It certainly has nothing to do with 'the class of the teacher' _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#6 (permalink) Tue Oct 16, 2012 19:54 pm Object vs. subject |
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Yes indeed - pipped at the post. I was on the point of pointing out your misinformation on this, THL. I'll also point out that there is nothing wrong with the present perfect 'has'. 'Has been behaving' chimes perfectly well with 'This is the teacher'.
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#7 (permalink) Tue Oct 16, 2012 22:06 pm Object vs. subject |
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It's a bit like 'in future' instead of 'in the future' although most Americans probably say that 'in future' sounds wrong. However, I hear it at the BBC all the time.
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#8 (permalink) Wed Oct 17, 2012 0:49 am Object vs. subject |
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haha, you are correct there Torsten - the same as "I was in hospital" - sounds very odd! I need to restrain myself from "correcting" this usage in the TOEFL essays. |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:20 am Object vs. subject |
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Thank you, Torsten, Alan and Bev, for your clarifying notes.
Alan, I agree with you especially when we do not know whether the boy has discontinued his misbehaviour in class.
It's really interesting to learn the nuances of usage through these discussions with native speakers. _________________ Anglophile
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#10 (permalink) Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:29 am Object vs. subject |
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Torsten wrote: | It's a bit like 'in future' instead of 'in the future' although most Americans probably say that 'in future' sounds wrong. However, I hear it at the BBC all the time. |
In sentences conveying a warning/admonition the phrase 'in future' is often found. Compare and contrast: 1. It is in your own interest that you do not repeat this mistake in future. 2. A far-sighted policy may serve many generations in the future. _________________ Anglophile
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