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#2 (permalink) Fri May 13, 2011 18:18 pm I forgot my keys |
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It looks wrong to me too, Saneta. I agree with you.
Before I try to find it to edit it, I wonder if it is acceptable in American English? Anyone? _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#3 (permalink) Fri May 13, 2011 23:19 pm I forgot my keys |
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Hi Bev,
It certainly isn't the best way to phrase that sentence. It sounds wrong to me too. Personally, I'd say either 'I forgot my/the house keys' (OR, as Saneta suggested, 'I forgot the keys to the house') OR 'I left my/the keys in the house'.
In addition, a search of COCA for the phrase 'forgot my keys in' results in no usage examples whatsoever.
If one of my students produced the test sentence, I would tell them that, even though the sentence is understandable, it should be corrected.
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#4 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 0:02 am I forgot my keys |
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Thanks for the confirmation. I've changed it to 'left', which is what I'd say too. We'll have to wait to see if the database refresh works this time. _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#5 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 0:07 am I forgot my keys |
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It's not worth changing back, but 'I forgot my keys in the house' is a common casual AmE utterance, as illogical as it sounds. My mother used it all the time (she was very forgetful). _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#6 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 0:42 am I forgot my keys |
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Hi MM,
Maybe it's mainly something used on the west coast then... (?) Or, if it was your mother who used it, perhaps it has become less common with time. I wouldn't call it common in my neck of the woods (east coast). One thing I would agree with, though, is that IF used, it is best used in casual conversation.
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#7 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 1:17 am I forgot my keys |
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Quote: | One thing I would agree with, though, is that IF used, it is best used in casual conversation. |
It's hard for a native speaker to think like that before using it. Nevertheless, certainly casual. I could get no hits at all from the new 155 billion (155,000,000,000) word corpus of American English (http://corpus.byu.edu), which is from Google Books. And it's hard to phrase it for searching, anyway. There are some interesting hits among Google's 112,000 results:
OH GOD! I forgot my keys in Michael Jackson's house!
And a discussion to the point at a rival site: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=768428
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#8 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 1:43 am I forgot my keys |
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Hi MM,
Thanks for the links. There does appear to be quite a bit of variation among native-speakers on this.
I have now managed to find 5 usage examples for "forgot * at home" in COCA. Still, that number is a bit "underwhelming"...
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#9 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 10:01 am I forgot my keys |
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So my original suspicions were correct, then. I believe 'left' is universally used, so unless I'm wrong about that is it okay to leave it? If it was important to that particulart test to include the word 'forgot' then perhaps we can just remove 'in the house' to make the statement universal. _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#10 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 14:17 pm I forgot my keys |
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Yes, yes, leave what you've done. 'Left' is unequivocally right. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#11 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 17:36 pm I forgot my keys |
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Dear Esl Expert, please tell mean what does it mean: 1. in my neck of the woods 2. COCA - a drug? thank you!:) |
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#12 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 18:30 pm I forgot my keys |
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1.in my neck of the woods = in my locality. (Around this area of the country) 2. COCA = Corpus of Contemporary American English: The interface (the Corpus's database) allows you to search for exact words or phrases, wildcards, lemmas, part of speech, or any combinations of these. You can search for surrounding words (collocates) within a ten-word window (e.g. all nouns somewhere near faint, all adjectives near woman, or all verbs near feelings), which often gives you good insight into the meaning and use of a word. http://corpus.byu.edu/coca/ _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#13 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 18:37 pm I forgot my keys |
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Thanks a lot Beeesneees!!! COCA is new for me and appears very good.. |
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#14 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 18:39 pm I forgot my keys |
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For examples of British English, there's also the BNC - the British National Corpus. http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/ _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#15 (permalink) Sat May 14, 2011 18:57 pm I forgot my keys |
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Ok! Thank You :-) |
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