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#2 (permalink) Thu Apr 26, 2012 19:36 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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This relative clause is called non-defining and that's why there is a comma. The description 'which looks magnificent' is an extra piece of information and doesn't define 'scenery'.
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#3 (permalink) Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:56 am Re: Is the comma correct here? |
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Madian wrote: | I've got a question. Here is a sentence from a test:
Percy Evans ought to be congratulated too for the scenery, which looked magnificent.
According to the key to the test this sentence is correct. However, in my opinion there is a mistake (maybe, a misprint). I think the comma is unnecessary here. Am I right?
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#4 (permalink) Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:20 am Is the comma correct here? |
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The comma is right there. It is required before 'which'. If the word 'that' had been used instead of 'which' then the comma would have been incorrect. _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#5 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:31 am Is the comma correct here? |
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or even 'which'. _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Progressive Forms |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:37 am Is the comma correct here? |
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Oh dear, let's not start that nonsense again. _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#7 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:41 am Is the comma correct here? |
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Good advice. You'll just have to pay closer attention, next time _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Passive Voice |
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#8 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:16 am Is the comma correct here? |
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Hi beeesneees,
I have something to say about the following sentence:
"Percy Evans ought to be congratulated too for the scenery, which looked magnificent."
From the above sentence, we can't understand how many pieces of scenery was there. It may be that there was also some pieces of scenery which was not magnificent and in that sense the which clause is a defining one and the comma is not necessary there.
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#9 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:46 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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Personally I think you are making this more complicated than you need. To me it is clear that the adjective clause is simply an additional piece of information and therefore a comma is required.
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#10 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 18:30 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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Alan wrote: | Good advice. You'll just have to pay closer attention, next time |
I paid close enough attention to know that you edited this. By the way, have you picked up the typo you made yesterday? _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#11 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 18:35 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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Well spotted! _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Make or Do? |
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#12 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 18:37 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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Evidently not, as it is still not corrected... or maybe someone comes along and changes your posts after you have made them. _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#13 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 18:38 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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Well, go on tell me where it is. I certainly appreciate all the industry you devote to my messages. _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Indirect Speech |
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#14 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 20:14 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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Not half as much attention as you pay to mine, but here's yesterday's typo: Tenses and while you're in that thread you might want to take a look at the one you made a short while ago too: Tenses
I'd tell you that perhaps you ought "to pay closer attention, next time", but I realise that we are all human and, as such, we are not infallible. _________________ "Inside every old person is a young person wondering what happened."
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#15 (permalink) Mon Apr 30, 2012 20:44 pm Is the comma correct here? |
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I merely make comments where I consider they are necessary. No doubt you will regurgitate what I am going to say but I am wholly sick of your comments and suggest you stop your remarks and stick to comments related to what users ask. Don't please simply throw back in my face what I have just said. If you do, you will simply confirm my belief that all you want to do is score cheap points. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Phrasal Verbs/bring |
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