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With them and with him #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 21, 2012 23:24 pm   With them and with him
 

Hi Torston
Please, can you tell me why we don,t use (with him or her) instead of (with them)?

(If you want to see a lawyer, you make an appiontment with them)

Here "lawyer" is a singular noun,and the pronoun that represents singular noun usually singular too acording to my limited information about grammar.

Lawyer = him,her.
Lawyers = them.

I found these kinds of sentences in many books, and this matter often confuses me a lot. Of course, there is a rule that explain why we use this.
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With them and with him #2 (permalink) Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:07 am   With them and with him
 

I agreed with you, the correct ones should be
If you want to see a lawyer, you make an appiontment with him or her.
If you want to see lawyers, you make an appiontment with them.

In English, I saw some unusual subject-Verb Agreement like :
Someone calls you, don't they ?
Someone is coming, aren't they ?

Even they are incorrect in grammar but people usually use it in daily speaking.
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With them and with him #3 (permalink) Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:30 am   With them and with him
 

You appear to be speaking about the so called 'singular they', which has become widely accepted as a third person non-gender specific singular pronoun (where it is not known whether the person is male or female).
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With them and with him #4 (permalink) Fri Jun 22, 2012 23:56 pm   With them and with him
 

Hello Beeesneees.
Thank you very much.
You are always ready to answer us.
Now everything is quite clear. Iam not confused anymore,
after explaning the (singular they) non-gender specific sigular prounoun.

Best wishes .
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With them and with him #5 (permalink) Sat Jun 23, 2012 0:23 am   With them and with him
 

Hi Waiyin.
Nice to meet you.
I have never come across such tag question.
thanks for this information.
I like strange things . They make me feel excited.

(Someone calls you, don't they?)
(Someone is coming, aren't they?)
This is really fantastic.
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